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Engine9
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Planet earth, tdot central

its not cheating unless you get caught

try memorizing 1000 greek/latin prefixes, suffixes and base words that you will never need to use in your life, no thanks

solution: print out a page with all of them on one side, take a paperclip, hide it under your shirt somewhere, when you get your exam clip the paper to the back of exam, at the end remove

works like a charm, only did this once for my last ever course in uni took a lot of balls to pull off. Its ok I had to choose between cheating and taking a piece of shit course again. do what you gotta do


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LiANG
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: rhill/uwsa studio

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
He taped it to the ceiling of the class, so when he's pretending to think he would look up and tap his chin with a pencil to make it look geniune, it was pretty hilarious cause there was about 4-5 people staring directly up at the ceiling lol


I'm guessing they must've used a size 50 font

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zokissima
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
My thoughts exactly.


I really don't see what you're so worked up about? Do you somehow feel that others' cheating somehow diminishes your own efforts, or you feel 'cheated' that you had to work while others did not? IMO, take pride in your own accomplishments, and leave it at that. Who the hell are you to judge others (and quite harshly) based on the fact that someone may have copied one or two lines during their whole academic career.

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nycionx
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
All the definitions of 4 chapers on one small little paper often called " Micro Copy "........Just take any regular photocopier and reduce the size of the image about 45 to 50% out of 100% and this is what you get.








You can make it more smaller to suit your own needs.



lol come on thats so obvious man!

so far i like the coke method Invasionmix mentioned, and mine cuz it involves cheating OUTSIDE the exam room. i mean the only way to get caught is if a teacher/TA comes in the washroom too and sees you, but then again you're in a stall. soo...its like impossible isnt it. also make sure that your name is not on any of the notes (which likely it wouldnt be). only possibilty is if they find the notes and take them and then compare the WRITING STYLE with every exam paper at the end. but thats time consuming for them and they gotta be damn sure about their suspected cheater.
only once this method didnt work and that is when a TA had to assist me to the washroom. wutever


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UmmiE
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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Brampton

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
Pfft that's the oldest trick in the book, I'm surprised you never got caught with that. The best way I've seen that concept being used was when a student came to a test early between periods in high school. He taped it to the ceiling of the class, so when he's pretending to think he would look up and tap his chin with a pencil to make it look geniune, it was pretty hilarious cause there was about 4-5 people staring directly up at the ceiling lol



I know its and oldie I have actually seen more different type over the years people in college doing same paper thing but hiding it in their coffee cup with seeing thru the area you rip and drink from.....or hiding it to inner side of your water bottle where you see all the name brand sticker and ingredients which maginfys it.



quote:
Originally posted by 1dawoman
let me guess....you used this cheating technique in english class...




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teufel-man
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Registered: May 2006
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One time I walked into an exam and basically our entire course was written out on the chalkboard.... and the prof didnt even notice, and we were all totally confused as to why it was up there, as this room was in the engineering building and we were in commerce so its not like it was there by accident

and the prof was about to start the test when one student raised his hand and asked if that material was suppose to be up there, and then the teacher was like 'well thats weird' and erased it

I am glad they took it down too because 1. I had studied the material and didnt need it and 2. I woulda probably just kept looking up there to make sure my answer was right and probably would got confused or something

so I guess someone thought they could cheat by having their cheat sheet on a 15 by 30 foot chalk board in the front of the class... surprisingly this almost worked

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Capo di tutti
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Registered: Apr 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
I really don't see what you're so worked up about? Do you somehow feel that others' cheating somehow diminishes your own efforts, or you feel 'cheated' that you had to work while others did not? IMO, take pride in your own accomplishments, and leave it at that. Who the hell are you to judge others (and quite harshly) based on the fact that someone may have copied one or two lines during their whole academic career.



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YODSANKLAI
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Registered: Apr 2008
Location: mississauga
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quote:
Originally posted by nycionx
i did. alot this past semester.
my method was to go to the nearest washroom before test/exam started and hide important notes underneath the garbage bin. if i was lost during the exam i would simply go to the washroom, take notes, go into a stall, and so on.
also last last semester we had an exam that was first half openbook, second closed. so second part comes and im absolutely clueless! my notes are just on the chair next to me since i didnt put back in my bag. so i slide the notes under my shirt, then "go take a leak" , and so on.

i dont think i wanna do it anymore though, bcuz you know maybe i didnt get caught yet, but give 100 times and 1 time i might get caught. so fuk it probly, i got just 1 more year to finish


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Cosmic Fur
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Canada

I did.

In highschool I was notorious for it. One of my favs methods was, when writing an exam/test, making sure to sit next to the recycle bin that was always somewhere near the wall. I would come in, sit down, look over my papers, and then toss the cheat sheet in the recycle bin. Then during the test I would either read out of the recycle bin directly, or drop a pen, pick up the paper out of the bin, paperclip it behind my test and away I went. A good solid one is to use the same thing except replace dropping paper into recycle bin for putting it under your sweater. Takes all of 5 minutes to think of/set up, and had 100% success rate.

Another one I remember using was either taping the cheet sheet quickly before the test underneath the desk, or i even went as far as using magnets when the desk had a metal bottom. But once I know a classmate saw because a corner started hanging down, but he/she didn't rat me out. I stopped using it after that.

Hahha, but one of my laziest methods was just bringing in the whole textbook and placing it on my lap for my gr.10 religion exam. The teacher didn't give a shit - he read/napped during the test.

In university I only cheated once, I think. (I can't remember if I planned on doing it and did it, or planned on doing it and didn't.) The risk/return analysis in university deals different results than in highschool:

a) The penalty is much harsher.
b) The risk is somewhat higher.
c) Half the time we're allowed using cheat sheets anyway. (I think sometimes profs are sadistic with that because they'll allow cheat sheets for a course where it's pointless to put anything on the cheat sheet unless you put down the entire OpenGL API.
d) The other time, the exam tests your thinking ability and not stuff you can put down on paper. I remember one time bringing in a full typed page of cheat notes for an exam, and never having to use it because all the stuff i put on it I didn't need/already knew.

I don't really judge people who cheat because I think everybody has been in a situation where they had to be less-than-honest in order to get out of it. If I see a person cheating, I think it's safe to assume that there's a reason as to why they are taking that extra risk.


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rabbitjoker
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Silky Johnson
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Registered: Nov 2003
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I've never cheated in University. The one and only time I ever cheated in school was in grade 2 on a spelling test. I peeked in my reader because I couldn't remember how to spell 'children'. I'll never forget how ashamed I was....I cried so hard when I got caught and my teacher was genuinely disappointed in me.

But yeah, no I don't think it's ok. It's not fair to the people who actually work hard for their grades.

And whoever said it doesn't diminish the efforts of those that don't cheat....what about bell curve grading? You don't think it affects non-cheaters then?

I really think there's no excuse...and I don't buy "there must be a good reason if someone cheats." You're in fucking university now...if you haven't done the work, you should be accountable...or you don't belong in university, imo.




No wonder there's so many idiots running things in this world.

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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Milton, ON Canada

it really comes down to what you consider cheating.....if you copy someone's math answer for an assignment is that cheating? Is failing to site a source cheating?

Personally, I think everyone has cheated in univeristy....whether intentionally or not.


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