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he's the one with the credibility problem. conversely, it's cute you're now willing to put him on a pedestal. it couldn't possibly be that this joker wasn't a mental giant in the first place, could it?
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Of course he’s the one with the credibility problem. Scott McClellan has NEVER had any credibility whatsoever much like the entire Bush administration that he represented (helloooo that’s the argument most people here have been making since Scott’s first appearance … a reputation that you neocons have always defended  ). What is f’in hilarious is watching you vultures trip over yourselves disassociating yourselves from him now that he isn’t kowtowing the party line. But yea it is reassuring to see that the Bush administration willingly chooses to staff itself with jokers and the stupid … kind of explains what has gone wrong in this country over the past 8 years.
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flip-flopped? what is this an election campaign? no, it's war. name one war where America never changed strategies.
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Yea, good job of disputing the Republican platform of stupidity against Kerry in 2004. But to answer your question about a war where America never changed strategies, how about the war in Iraq which NEVER changed strategy and was a failure for four years under Bush? You 23%ers now laud McCain for the surge when you criticized him for back in 2006 and now you have the audacity to try to take credit for it?? Seriously, have you no shame?
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please. take you out of context? you were parroting Harry Reid as if he were the 2nd coming of Christ. you couldn't speak about the surge for months without condemning it to premature failure. |
What are you talking about? Look son, I advocated the surge back when you were saying that Bush was taking care of everything, the war would be over soon, and everything would be peaches and roses because our competent leaders were doing an excellent job. This is back when you were arguing that because of the do-no-wrong bush administration we didn’t NEED a surge so don’t try to tell me otherwise. I criticized the Surge because it was years overdue, 4000 American lives overdue, and half a trillion dollars overdue. The war as a whole has been a FAILURE.
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it's the effort as a whole that us 23%'ers want something good to come out of. we deal with setbacks, gains, more troops, less troops, small victories, more setbacks, as a way to achieve our goals if thats what you mean by mantra. my attitude and seriousness about this war hasn't changed a bit. it's not glamorous. sometimes it's humiliating, but one thing is for sure we won't give up.
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You guys fucked up. It will cost us thousands of lives, potentially billions of dollars, and it didn’t do anything to make us safer. And to top it all off, you guys who made it all possible are unwilling to acknowledge that you fucked up. So out of vanity and pride, at the expense of your fellow Americans, you’ll persevere and cling to some half-witted, notion that what you have done has benefited America. Yea thanks for your “sacrifice.” You’re like a bunch of retards that do more harm than good that everyone is patiently trying to get rid of.
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i want to get something straight. if the Democrats had ever succeeded in their empty promises about precipitous withdrawal after 2006, ultimately letting those 4000 deaths go in vain, you would have cheered from the rooftops knowing we weren't going to spend another $500 billion in Iraq. that’s how |
You, of all people, are in no position to say anything to me about the waste of human life or money. At least I didn’t support incompetence at the expense of the lives and money of my fellow Americans. You’re the one who has supported everything this administration has ever done … you’re the only one who has been “cheering” our country’s downfall. Seriously you want to raise that argument with me? Go fuck yourself.
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