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LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
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If a reporter asks how many houses you own and you say "I'll have my staff get to you".... you might be an elitist

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Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said in an interview Wednesday that he was uncertain how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own.

"I think — I'll have my staff get to you," McCain told Politico in Las Cruces, N.M. "It's condominiums where — I'll have them get to you."

The correct answer is at least four, located in Arizona, California and Virginia, according to his staff. Newsweek estimated this summer that the couple owns at least seven properties....
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LatinLover
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WOW all of a sudden owning multiple homes is an immoral thing to do. If the democrats think that they are going to win by putting out how many homes somebody owns they deserved to be ban from the elections Dems ought to be shame of themselves


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Lebezniatnikov
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
WOW all of a sudden owning multiple homes is an immoral thing to do. If the democrats think that they are going to win by putting out how many homes somebody owns they deserved to be ban from the elections Dems ought to be shame of themselves


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McCains Bought Second Beach Condo At Around Time McCain Said Struggling Homeowners Needed To Skip Vacations
By Greg Sargent - August 21, 2008, 2:37PM

Here's a fun little find that is likely to give Dems more ammo to blast away at John McCain's number-of-houses gaffe.

It turns out that a few months ago, a McCain family corporation closed on a second multi-million-dollar beach condo in the same building in exclusive Coronado, California -- at around the same time that John McCain offered his somewhat tone-deaf observation that struggling homeowners were "working at second jobs" and "skipping a vacation" in order to make mortgage payments on time.

Cindy McCain discussed the timing of the second condo purchase in a June interview with Vogue magazine (not online) that's newly relevant in light of the explosive controversy over John McCain's inability to recall how many homes the McCains own.

And in another fun fact that could pour fuel on this controversy, Cindy told her interviewer that the reason they needed a second beach condo in the Coronado building was that the first was too crowded because her kids were staying there and as a result she "couldn't get in the place."

Cindy continued: "So I bought another one."

Here's the relevant passage, from the start of the Vogue piece:

It is a late Sunday afternoon in April, and I am sitting in a condominium in Coronado, California, taking in the view of the gorgeous San Diego Bay with Cindy McCain. She closed on the place just two weeks earlier, and the only things unpacked so far are the family photos that dot almost every surface. It's her family's second condo in the building. "I like the ocean, and the kids love it here, and I love that," she tells me, curled up on a nondescript couch that looks like it might have come with the apartment. "When I bought the first one, my husband, who is not a beach person, said, 'Oh, this is such a waste of money; the kids will never go.' Then it got to the point where they used it so much I couldn't get in the place. So I bought another one."

According to a July story in The Politico, a McCain family corporation spent a combined $4.7 million on the two condos in Coronado.

If the interview was conducted sometime in April, and she'd closed on the condo two weeks earlier, that means that the latest the closing could have happened is mid-April, and the earliest is mid-March.

On March 25, John McCain said:

And 51 million homeowners are doing what's necessary: working at second jobs, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets to make their payments on time.

So at around the time McCain said this, the McCain family corporation was either actively in the market for, or had closed on, a second multi-million-dollar beach condo in the same building which was necessary because the first one was too crowded with their children in it.


http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpo...nd_beach_ho.php

I don't think the fact that he HAS several houses is the problem (though it does say a lot about the hypocrisy in calling Obama an elitist). I think the problem is that McCain just had a "senior moment" that also demonstrated how out of touch he really is with the middle class in this country.


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I think the problem is that McCain just had a "senior moment"


wrong. >LINK<

he actually owns none, zero. for him, answering a question like that definitively takes some thought.

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
WOW all of a sudden owning multiple homes is an immoral thing to do. If the democrats think that they are going to win by putting out how many homes somebody owns they deserved to be ban from the elections Dems ought to be shame of themselves



A lot of Americans are facing foreclosure on the 1 home they do own.


And this is indeed not a winning strategy imo. All of this stupid shit is completely irrelevant to being president.


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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
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wrong. >LINK<

he actually owns none, zero. for him, answering a question like that definitively takes some thought.

Don't you think that he should know that he owns nothing? This should be a no-brainer for him in that case.


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Clovis
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Bottom line is the McCains are not suffering in any way shape or fucking form...


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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
A lot of Americans are facing foreclosure on the 1 home they do own.


And this is indeed not a winning strategy imo. All of this stupid shit is completely irrelevant to being president.

Unfortunately, it's what 1/2 of the people in this country vote on. I know...I know, but just look at McCain's recent poll numbers.

I don't care if he wants to be a new politician, Obama needs to go negative. He's got enough money to balance it with "I will do this" ads, but McCain has done nothing but go negative and it's working. If that's what it takes to win "Independents," this is a no-brainer.

McCain's got so much more of a history of political and personal corruption that it's ridiculous.

Oh, and I know....Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko....blah, blah, fuck off...Keating 5, leaving 1st wife on recovery bed for 7 houses, Dubya hug, the list goes on and on. If Obama wanted to open up a negative campaign like I'd like to see, McCain would be fucked. He's got enough cash to balance it 50-50 and still match McCain in negativity.

Honestly, has there been 1 McCain ad that hasn't referenced Obama? 1?


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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Don't you think that he should know that he owns nothing? This should be a no-brainer for him in that case.


it's complicated. was he clumsy answeing the question? sure, but it's not exactly easy for him to answer and certainly not a "senior moment"

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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
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it's complicated. was he clumsy answeing the question? sure, but it's not exactly easy for him to answer and certainly not a "senior moment"

I'm sorry, but there's no excuse for any leader to not know where he's got his money and what it's worth.

Secondly, to take the low blow, if he and Cindy were such good Christians, shouldn't they share in everything? Why do they have separate accounts, trusts, etc.? Especially since the definition of marriage should be an amendment.


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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I'm sorry, but there's no excuse for any leader to not know where he's got his money and what it's worth.

Secondly, to take the low blow, if he and Cindy were such good Christians, shouldn't they share in everything? Why do they have separate accounts, trusts, etc.? Especially since the definition of marriage should be an amendment.


omg

did he say he didn't know? NO. he didn't.

...and it's called a pre-nup. wtf is so hard to understand about that? ffs man

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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
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omg

did he say he didn't know? NO. he didn't.

...and it's called a pre-nup. wtf is so hard to understand about that? ffs man

This guy wants to rule the free world and he doesn't even know how his wife has him under her thumb? What he actually agreed into?

Absolutely no fucking way that you can ignore his ignorance towards his own finances when looking at his economic plan - which he also acknowledged that he has no idea about.

It's really amazing that the candidate from the party of business has no fucking clue what he owns.


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We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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