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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
and if you were one of the tenants or homeowners impacted, you'd be first in line to hold Miller, McGuinty or whoever responsible and demand compensation or prosecution right?

Slight difference between expecting compensation (which would be reasonable if the explosion was due to any kind of negligence) and enacting a province-wide ban.


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Old Post Aug-12-2008 23:39  Canada
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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto

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Slight difference between expecting compensation (which would be reasonable if the explosion was due to any kind of negligence) and enacting a province-wide ban.


well, NIMBY = not in my backyard...and it's kind of hard to justify the entire province as your 'backyard'. so anyone actually proposing THAT kind of ban isn't even a NIMBY, they're a freakin' idiot

but people calling for a ban from residential areas is rather understandable, given the circumstances.

immediate ban? no. figure out what happened and decide from there after consultation with experts on the matter? yes. understandble for someone woken up by huge explosions, shattered glass and being forced from their home for days to be calling for a ban from residential areas? I would say it's not "unreasonable" to expect to hear calls for that to be considered.

calling people "NIMBYs" is a bit heartless and unreasonable in this case. This isn't a "nuissance" issue, like clubland condo dwellers or Islanders complaining about noise...this resulted in loss of life, considerable damage, and could have been a *far* greater disaster than it already has proven to be.

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DigiNut
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this resulted in loss of life, considerable damage, and could have been a *far* greater disaster than it already has proven to be.

But there was no loss of life; the potential for greater disaster is only speculation; and if there was any negligence involved, they will of course be held responsible for the damages.

If we're to make this a local "ban", claim that the land was zoned incorrectly and force them to move, who should pay for that process?


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quote:
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But there was no loss of life; the potential for greater disaster is only speculation; and if there was any negligence involved, they will of course be held responsible for the damages.

If we're to make this a local "ban", claim that the land was zoned incorrectly and force them to move, who should pay for that process?


a firefighter died and an unidentified body was found on the site (which could be that of a still-missing employee)

there are houses *across the street*...metres away. smashed windows, ceilings caving in and many wondering about structural damange.

the site of the facility itself is trashed...so relocating it now can't be significantly more expensive than rebuilding it there (after the investigation, after the cleanup, etc).

who should pay? that depends upon the results of the investigation. either the company or their insurer will pay for the rebuild, so why not push for relocation now. it won't happen...but it's an option.

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TheVrk
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Windsor, Canada

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It even made the BBC News Frontpage. Source: Link. 4th from the top right now on the right-hand panel.

Full article. Source: Link.

Ya this was one of the top 5 biggest stories on CNN Int'l the last few days-
Fucked up, REALLY fucked up.

Honestly, SO lucky so few ppl died

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That visdeo is crazy, i feel so bad for all the people who are kept out of their homes


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

I was stuck on the 401 East (1-2 exits before the 400) for over an hour and a 1/2 bc of this propane incident!

God was that frustrating!

I was wondering what the HELL was going on w/ the traffic shitshow clutterfuck of a mess, so I turned to 680 and thats when I found it what caused it.

Passed the 400, the 401 E wast closed, so everyone had to be diverted onto the 400 exit, and that's only 1 lane wide exiting off the 401, which is what caused the whole back up which saw ppl crawing forward inches at time every 5 mins! Ugh.

What an annoying drive home. Being late getting into the office too sucked.

At the time, around 1pm, 680 News was already saying that a firefighter had been found on the scene w/o vitalals they thought. Sorry to hear it confirmed that a man did indeed die. Really unfortunate.


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