If we're fertile enough to have them that is!

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Originally posted by Fledz Yea I know but to be honest, it's something that's always been in the back of my mind.

Only because its been pumped into you from an early age to get married and have kids blah blah blah...... fuck wog parents always asking when they are getting a grandchild
i bring a guy home for dinner ... "when are we getting a grandchild"
yea thanks for scaring him away folks

And yet our divorce rates are tonnes lower than western children. Fancy that

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Originally posted by Fledz And yet our divorce rates are tonnes lower than western children. Fancy that

thats coz our parents will kill us before the divorce papers are filed

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Originally posted by Fledz And yet our divorce rates are tonnes lower than western children. Fancy that

I'm sorry, but that really annoys me.

Australia prides itself on being a multicultural country, yet there's still such an "us and them" mentality exhibited by a lot of people with ethnic backgrounds.

Fledz, were you born in Australia? Yet you still don't consider yourself "western"?

Do you support Australia or Croatia in major sporting events?

I understand people wanting to hang onto their roots, because history and family ties are important, but for people BORN in a country to say they are anything other than the nationality of that country is ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog I'm sorry, but that really annoys me. Australia prides itself on being a multicultural country, yet there's still such an "us and them" mentality exhibited by a lot of people with ethnic backgrounds. Fledz, were you born in Australia? Yet you still don't consider yourself "western"? Do you support Australia or Croatia in major sporting events? I understand people wanting to hang onto their roots, because history and family ties are important, but for people BORN in a country to say they are anything other than the nationality of that country is ridiculous.

That's a huge thing with Americans too I've found. Also here in the UK, trying to tell some people that those with parents from asia, europe, wherever, that their kids are still british, not pakistani or whatever can be quite a task on both sides. You have those white people who refuse to believe they're as entitled to be english & then the pakistani or whichever nation the parents are from arguing also that they're not english. IMO as you say, you're born somewhere, you are that nationality. Fledz wasn't born in aus though iirc

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Originally posted by Beat Blog I understand people wanting to hang onto their roots, because history and family ties are important, but for people BORN in a country to say they are anything other than the nationality of that country is ridiculous.

i disagree, i dont believe country of birth dictates your nationality/heritage. For example what if your parents were working in a country like new zealand and moved back to australia when you were 1-2 years of age. Are you then a kiwi because you were born on their soil.

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Originally posted by Ian Fledz wasn't born in aus though iirc

Crap.

My point stands though, even if it doesn't apply directly to him.

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Originally posted by narcism i disagree, i dont believe country of birth dictates your nationality/heritage. For example what if your parents were working in a country like new zealand and moved back to australia when you were 1-2 years of age. Are you then a kiwi because you were born on their soil.

No, you'd be an Australian because you spent a vast majority of your life there.

My original point was referring to these fuck wits who were born and raised in Australia, and have never even BEEN to their parents' original country, then proceed to support Greece, Italy or wherever they're from in the soccer and say "I'm Greek", rather than "I'm Australian".

Be proud of your heritage. I know I am, but it's where you spent most of your life that defines you, not where you ancestors spent theirs.

p.s this ties in with that big argument I had with nch09 and a couple of other Latino background people on here soon after I joined, in that people who move to a country should give their all for it, by learning the language and trying to integrate.

I think they misunderstood me as a bigot saying "fuck off ethnic immigrants" when all I really meant was that if you move to a new country, even under duress as a refugee etc, you should do your best to become a part of it.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Be proud of your heritage. I know I am, but it's where you spent most of your life that defines you, not where you ancestors spent theirs.

Also disagree
i think its 50/50

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Originally posted by narcism i disagree, i dont believe country of birth dictates your nationality/heritage. For example what if your parents were working in a country like new zealand and moved back to australia when you were 1-2 years of age. Are you then a kiwi because you were born on their soil.

actually yes, you'd be a kiwi to aussie parents & eligible for dual-nationality imo. I have no problems with people who want to show any sort of hommage to their parents or grandparents nationalities but if you're born somewhere, you automatically gain that nation as part of you at the very least.