im shocked at how many hippies there are in the COR.

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Originally posted by Akridrot Goddamnit, we're on the same fucking page. Luxuries of the intellect is what I'm getting at. No more music industry, but a vast organization of musicians and fans who make and supply the music themselves. Same for movies and everything... it's like, everything would be social and open. What irritates me is the fact that this really, truly, is possible. It's not 100% unrealistic. It's just that most people's minds have been conditioned not to accept such a lifestyle in favor of a superficial, artificially constructed lifestyle, when in reality, this alternative society would be in everyone's best interests. Even for the ones who try to actively prevent its existence.

I agree.

For the alternative to become real, there would have to be some kind of "conversion" process that changed the current mentality, a widespread reassessment of values. In our current social arrangement, someone who tried to act like a "typical" member of your dream society would be written off by most as idealistic, naive, or just plain incompetent -- out of tune with everyone else's priorities and therefore unable to properly look out for himself.

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Originally posted by fayraree im shocked at how many hippies there are in the COR.

don't forget fags

there are many fags in c0r

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Akridrot Are you kidding me? I know people who have 'friends' in the thousands and only talk to about 5 people MAX. It's so fucking stupid, I swear. These aren't social networking sites, these are basically "Please add me to your friends because you go to the same college as me and maybe I've seen you once or twice, or maybe we have a mutual friend. Anyway, just approve my request and we will never speak to each other again. Isn't this cool!?" sites.

Well put. I don't do Myspace but on Facebook I've only added people who I'd go down to the bar, or a pub for a drink with.

Some people I know seem to have turned it into a competition to see who can have the most friends The irony is it usually goes the other way. Those I know with 800+ friends are those who were the loners when I knew them and probably add people they meet on the bus.

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Originally posted by Brizzo "It's all gone Pete Tong" is actually a phrase in Europe, England I believe. Pretty sure that's where Pete Tong got his DJ name from as well.

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson Some people I know seem to have turned it into a competition to see who can have the most friends The irony is it usually goes the other way. Those I know with 800+ friends are those who were the loners when I knew them and probably add people they meet on the bus.

I only add people I hang out with in some form or fashion and know more than "Hey, I am Ben, who are you?" types. Even TAs that I am down near but have never met, I don't add for the most part. There are a select few, but most I do not. I prefer to add people I actually know. I usually stick to this. I had someone try to add me on facebook who I didn't know. I straight up asked, "do I know you? Have I met you somewhere?" I really hate to have people on my list that I don't know.

Also, as mentioned, the US has conditioned a lot of people (not just the US peeps) that a "friend" is someone you know, where as in most cultures, a friend is someone that would give you the shirt off their back if necessary. I have attempted to change my usage but it is quite hard when you have done it your whole life.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Also, as mentioned, the US has conditioned a lot of people (not just the US peeps) that a "friend" is someone you know, where as in most cultures, a friend is someone that would give you the shirt off their back if necessary. I have attempted to change my usage but it is quite hard when you have done it your whole life.

Quite, when I said I'd never add someone I wouldn't be happy to have a drink with it was implied that I had met them at some point. I guess that's because I'm British so as you say, a friend is not the same as an acquaintance.

So my criteria:
-Have I met you?
-Would I have a drink with you?
Yes, to both gets you added. I'm sure nobody gives a shit

Like you I've had some people from other online communities where I am more active request me and I've just turned them down, or left them in the purgatory where they are neither denied nor accepted.

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Originally posted by Brizzo "It's all gone Pete Tong" is actually a phrase in Europe, England I believe. Pretty sure that's where Pete Tong got his DJ name from as well.

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Akridrot:

A consumption-oriented economy thrives on social isolation and insensitivity to "intellectual goods."

People who derive most of their happiness from hanging out with their friends and family, or from inexpensive hobbies like reading or art, feel little need for big ticket items. They get their emotional satisfaction in less tangible ways. If you borrow DVDs and CDs and books from your friends rather than buying them, you are worth far less to the corporations who manufacture those things. If lots of people live contentedly in the same home, that means fewer washing machines, televisions, ovens, computers, and vacuum cleaners will be sold, since those things can easily be shared by people who live under the same roof -- not to mention that fewer houses will be built in the first place.

So the mantra of "independence" is trumpeted, idealizing the pleasure and "freedom" of possessing one's very own [insert expensive item here]. Never mind the dependence on creditors and employers that frequently results when people take such a mantra seriously.

Encourage domestic discontent, encourage a rift between generations that makes living under the same roof intolerable, and you suddenly create a "need" for thousands of more products and funnel lots of money to the industries that manufacture them and the other industries that gather the necessary raw materials. Thousands of new houses must be built, thousands of new appliances made, and thousands of jobs are created to throw the economic giant into motion. This is part of the meaning behind "youth culture": tell kids that their parents can never understand them and that their generation is "special," and you persuade them to purchase generation-specific fashions to affirm their "identity." Make a new kind of malcontent and you open up a new market.

The current economic order has a very strong interest in keeping everyone atomized and dissatisfied, inducing in them a lust for something to take the place of the deep and caring social relationships they don't have. That something turns out to be the goods that are hawked endlessly on TV and elsewhere.

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson Quite, when I said I'd never add someone I wouldn't be happy to have a drink with it was implied that I had met them at some point. I guess that's because I'm British so as you say, a friend is not the same as an acquaintance. So my criteria: -Have I met you? -Would I have a drink with you? Yes, to both gets you added. I'm sure nobody gives a shit Like you I've had some people from other online communities where I am more active request me and I've just turned them down, or left them in the purgatory where they are neither denied nor accepted.

This is basically how I add people. If I don't like you, you would never end up on my "friends" list.

Jive: That is the shit I can't stand. Worldly possessions dictating happiness. I own very little, don't have a ton of electronics, things to "show" where my money has gone, yet I am quite content with my life thus far. I have some great friends that I would give the world for. I am fine just the way I am. I want a little bit more money per year at my job, but only so that I can travel more and see the world. And go to school.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Akridrot: A consumption-oriented economy thrives on social isolation and insensitivity to "intellectual goods." People who derive most of their happiness from hanging out with their friends and family, or from inexpensive hobbies like reading or art, feel little need for big ticket items. They get their emotional satisfaction in less tangible ways. If you borrow DVDs and CDs and books from your friends rather than buying them, you are worth far less to the corporations who manufacture those things. If lots of people live contentedly in the same home, that means fewer washing machines, televisions, ovens, computers, and vacuum cleaners will be sold, since those things can easily be shared by people who live under the same roof -- not to mention that fewer houses will be built in the first place. So the mantra of "independence" is trumpeted, idealizing the pleasure and "freedom" of possessing one's very own [insert expensive item here]. Never mind the dependence on creditors and employers that frequently results when people take such a mantra seriously. Encourage domestic discontent, encourage a rift between generations that makes living under the same roof intolerable, and you suddenly create a "need" for thousands of more products and funnel lots of money to the industries that manufacture them and the other industries that gather the necessary raw materials. Thousands of new houses must be built, thousands of new appliances made, and thousands of jobs are created to throw the economic giant into motion. This is part of the meaning behind "youth culture": tell kids that their parents can never understand them and that their generation is "special," and you persuade them to purchase generation-specific fashions to affirm their "identity." Make a new kind of malcontent and you open up a new market. The current economic order has a very strong interest in keeping everyone atomized and dissatisfied, inducing in them a lust for something to take the place of the deep and caring social relationships they don't have. That something turns out to be the goods that are hawked endlessly on TV and elsewhere.

You know what you need to do? You need to start writing in a blog. I am fucking serious. Maybe you'll publish weekly or monthly, or when you have the time. Whatever. Start a blog. (I also think Arbiter would be a good blogger, but I haven't seen him around lately.)

Stop wasting these excellent thoughts in forums, you need to start blogging. Promote and people will read it. I will certainly be reading it. You probably already have a solid readership from the COR alone.

If you think you'd like to just copy paste a collection of your best posts so far just for starters, that would work too. I really want to see you do this. Are you motivated to do this, though? Are you even interested in doing this if you were assured that your blog would be read?

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel haha Akridot, you should have seen his post a month or so back. He is lost. I told him he needs to travel.

We are all lost, in some way.

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Originally posted by Akridrot We are all lost, in some way.

Agreed, but he had a really good thread. I don't even remember the title, but it basically was dealing with the point of life and your goals and aspirations. If he can find it (I assume he can) you should take a gander. It is a good read.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.