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Do you use harmonic mixing when you DJ?
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I use harmonic mixing all the time 11 33.33%
I do it by ear sometimes 13 39.39%
I haven't started using it 9 27.27%
Total: 33 votes 100%
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mfitterer1
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Oregon

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
I want to share my advice. You said that harmonic mixing is restricted to 3 keys, but you forgot a lot of other options. When I watch the best harmonic mixing DJs use our software, they use 11 different methods:


Basic mixes

1. Same key: 5A > 5A (results in a perfect mashup)
2. +1: 5A > 6A (smooth mix, one of the 4 basics)
3. -1: 5A > 4A (smooth mix, one of the 4 basics)
4. Same key, different letter: 5A > 5B (minor to major mix, or vice versa. it creates a nice change of melody and sounds great)


Pro DJ mixes

5. +2: 5A > 7A (energy boost mix, makes the crowd dance harder)
6. +7: 5A > 12A (energy boost mix, but with a massive key clash. uplifting but unpleasant to hear)
7. +4: 5A > 9A (what I call the "David Guetta" modulation mix -- doesn't work all the time, but sounds like magic when done right)
8. If your keycode ends in "A", add 3 numbers, change letter: 5A > 8B (a mix that works perfectly with long breakdowns in Trance and chillout music)
9. If your keycode ends in "B", subtract 3, change letter: 8B > 5A (same as #8 above).

Bassline modulation effects

10. +1, change the letter: 5A > 6B (modulation mix that works for a lot of music with a chunky bassline, such as House and Electro)
11. -1, change the letter: 5A > 4B (same as #10 above)


Here is the trick with harmonic mixing: If you know keys of your tracks ahead of time, you will *know* what effect it's going to have on your audience. You can raise the energy, take them on a journey, etc. Harmonic mixing is the ultimate crowd control tool. Which is why Armin Van Buuren, Paul Van Dyk, Sasha, John Digweed and thousands of others use it every time they play. It's a guarantee that you will stay in control of your audience.


This is pretty much all anyone should need to see to buy it. You can do anything you want with it!

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PutBoy
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: LA (Landskrona)

quote:
Originally posted by Fusic
If DJing isn't about that and its about the love of the music then there shouldn’t be any tools to help make it easier on your part, want to figure out if keys match? Like you said get on a piano and figure it out. Want to beatmatch two songs? Play the records and actually have hands on experience instead of clicking play and having a program beatmatch for you.

The art of mixing is just slowly fading away with all these programs that are basically TELLING you what songs go good with each other, why don’t you be the judge? Do some work yourself


This program does not tell you which tunes work well together. They tell you how the tunes work harmonically together. A tune is much more than the key it's in.

And since when have BPM analyzers been 100%? Hell, this program is not 100% exact either (I am not sure on this but I am sure that I 100% doubt it). If someone wishes to spin records based only on the results they are getting from any of these types of programs, go ahead, but I'm positive it just won't work, and probably never will.

At the end of the day, these programs doesn't tell you anything. Sure, you can chose to mix two tunes together just because they are both 10A, but that doesn't mean they acctually work well. At the end of it, you are still the judge, whatever this program tells you. You are just arguing from a slippery-slope point of view, and I don't think it's a valid argument you are making.

You should seriously take a chill-pill, I'm not even sure what it is that you are afraid of.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
This is pretty much all anyone should need to see to buy it. You can do anything you want with it!


yeah, well people like nem have been providing all that nice advice free of charge coz they're a good bloke, rather than trying to rip people off with second-rate software.

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Joss Weatherby
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Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course

I have been mixing for a long time and I have never planned out any key to key transitions before hand...

No one has ever complained about key clashes unless I am totally just fuxing with a new track or something I have just picked up and never really listened to.

I think if your ear and memory are good enough then you will remember your tracks in your head but that might only be some people.

I can dig through crates of records and still know in my head with out getting a number what tracks are close enough to mix speed wise and I guess I just do this in my head for key as well.

Course me and my mates and everyone else could be tone death as well...

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DJ Blitzkrieg
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Alpharetta, GA

^ Agree

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