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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 People have said that GTAIV doesn't have nearly the replay value of San Andreas. But its hard to knock R* for that when they did such an incredible job with the visual detail of the game. Basically, comparing IV to San Andreas is like comparing San Andreas to GTA3; IV is the beginning of a new era for the franchise, and the following sequels will add a lot more content that will make people want to explore the city a lot more. I didn't buy GTAIV (lack of money, not choice), so I really haven't played the hell out of the game like everybody else. It's hard for me to see it from your perspective since I'm sure you've done everything you can do and are now pissed because San Andreas had a lot more life in it.

true.. but they took away one thing i enjoyed the most out of the game.. taxi driving. however I'm not even 50 % done with it yet so I dont know if the main character gets to do that later.

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Gonna bump this bitch, anyone got this for Xbox and wanna play, been hooked the past week or so playing it non stop?

My xbox ID: rodrico48

So I guess my AMD 64 FX55 CPU and 7800GTX won't run this

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Originally posted by Shudder true.. but they took away one thing i enjoyed the most out of the game.. taxi driving. however I'm not even 50 % done with it yet so I dont know if the main character gets to do that later.

Haha, maybe he learns how to do taxi driving as the quest continues. Either way, I had no idea they took that feature out...which kinda sucks because that was one of the extra activities that everybody loved doing.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY So I guess my AMD 64 FX55 CPU and 7800GTX won't run this

i dont know what an fx55 is, but a 7800GTX would be fine. i actually think the graphics in this game are pretty shit, by 2008 standards.

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My old radeon 9200 was running source engine smoothly back in the day. A geforce 7 should excel at it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i dont know what an fx55 is, but a 7800GTX would be fine. i actually think the graphics in this game are pretty shit, by 2008 standards.

The Graphics look awesome to me.....really impressed how well the engine holds up too!

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I personally don't care about graphics, and I wouldn't mind at all if source engine kept being used for another ten years. But seriousely, L4D's graphics engine really doesn't measure up to any current high profile games, or even games from years ago.

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Seriously your talking nonsense....

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 People have said that GTAIV doesn't have nearly the replay value of San Andreas. But its hard to knock R* for that when they did such an incredible job with the visual detail of the game.

It's very easy to knock R* for that when they removed incredible game content for the sole purpose of making the game have PRE77Y PIKTARZZ!!!

The desire for pretty graphics in place of a more immersive and enjoyable gaming environment is the #1 for the decline in the overall quality of video-games in the current generation.

Luckily, once the pretty pictures have been developed, then content is added in a sequel, and sometimes it works out to be a masterpiece!

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Originally posted by Spam The desire for pretty graphics in place of a more immersive and enjoyable gaming environment is the #1 for the decline in the overall quality of video-games in the current generation.

I would mostly agree but instead I would say that the problem is the desire for realistic graphics. There's no reason why a game's graphics can't have great artistic quality while simultaneousely providing an enjoyable game world.

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Originally posted by Spam It's very easy to knock R* for that when they removed incredible game content for the sole purpose of making the game have PRE77Y PIKTARZZ!!! The desire for pretty graphics in place of a more immersive and enjoyable gaming environment is the #1 for the decline in the overall quality of video-games in the current generation. Luckily, once the pretty pictures have been developed, then content is added in a sequel, and sometimes it works out to be a masterpiece!

Agreed, though when I said 'visual detail', I was trying to separate my remark away from just saying 'good graphics'. The people walking around, birds flying in the sky, every building individually and uniquely presented...I mean, I felt like I was in a real city. Now that's what I was talking about, and for R* to be able to pull all of that off is absolutely amazing.

But yes, if gameplay takes a hit, there should be some criticism. Yet in my experiences with playing the game, I can hardly find things to dislike. The disclusion of taxi driving is strange, but beyond that, I think everyone was just spoiled with San Andreas and how there was so much to do.

With GTA4, R* had to construct an entirely new graphics engine (all of the previous 3-D GTA's were built on the same model)...to expect them to successfully do that AND pack the game full of the same amount of content as San Andreas...well, I think that's asking a little too much.

Which is why your last sentence in your post is spot on...the sequels to GTA4 will be filled with shit to do, because the visual foundation has already been set.

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