I believe the marrying age in Ontario is 18. So i guess its possible that a man who is 21, married and has 2 children will have to ask mommy and daddy to drive his family around town? In toronto its not as common but just think about the rest of the province where scenarios like this are very common.

This law really goes too far.

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Originally posted by MarkT sorry, I just had to quote that. It's the first time in recent memory (if at all) that you've said something positive about a Liberal politician at any level, lol. (btw...bash the gov't of the other 3 provinces who implemented this already, not just the McGuinty gov't).

If Liberals were worth complimenting more often then i would do it more often. As for the other 3 provinces, its just as wrong there as it is here. The fact that this is obviously nothing more than knee jerk reaction to placate special interests who had enough money to take their whine to a full page newspaper ad is almost as disturbing as the law itself.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I believe the marrying age in Ontario is 18. So i guess its possible that a man who is 21, married and has 2 children will have to ask mommy and daddy to drive his family around town? In toronto its not as common but just think about the rest of the province where scenarios like this are very common. This law really goes too far.

JAYYYYY AARRRRGGGGHHHHH Why do you take the most bizarre view of these things?

I really don't understand where you're coming from here unless I can't read. To me, the article is speaking to measures to minimize impaired driving and the negative impacts of crazy ass friends next to you in a car!!!!!

I am not very eloquent today but please tell me you can see it from that side too! Seriously, do you think Daddy 19 year old (the article said TEENAGE) driving his family around town is going to be stopped for this law?! Come on, there has to be room for interpretation here.... Where as fuckface pimpleboy with his slutty girlfriend in the front and 3 drunk mates in the back, well, perhaps he WOULD get stopped. Am I bothered? NO.

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Instead of picking an age bracket to villainize, why not place the ban on anyone still using a G2 license??

If you have a G1, you need a lisenced driver with you anyways, who would be responsible for what happens inthe car - no D&D or risk of distraction there.

G2 drivers are limited in the number of friends they may drive, a bitch for commuters and DDs, but still reasonable.

Telling someone who holds a G license they can't fill their car is ludicrous. If they aren't to be trusted with passengers, they aren't to be trusted with a car. This is what graduated licensing is for!

Enough with the micro-management, Dalton. Fuck!

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS Instead of picking an age bracket to villainize, why not place the ban on anyone still using a G2 license?? If you have a G1, you need a lisenced driver with you anyways, who would be responsible for what happens inthe car - no D&D or risk of distraction there. G2 drivers are limited in the number of friends they may drive, a bitch for commuters and DDs, but still reasonable. Telling someone who holds a G license they can't fill their car is ludicrous. If they aren't to be trusted with passengers, they aren't to be trusted with a car. This is what graduated licensing is for! Enough with the micro-management, Dalton. Fuck!

Exactly.. and even then i still say the current system suffices. We are still going to see "tragic accidents" regardless of these silly laws.

While I can agree with the zero-tolerance for alcohol in the system, what I can't agree with is:

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Under the new bill, teenage drivers in Ontario would only be allowed one passenger aged 16 to 19 -- although there would be exemptions for brothers and sisters. Studies show just one teenage passenger with a teen driver doubles the chances of an accident.

So, if your driving somewhere alone - fine
Driving somewhere with ONE friend - fine
Driving some where with 2 or 3 friends? Sorry - ask mom & pops to take you there? eh?

As kids move out at younger ages to go to University, they can't be trusted to drive with more than 1 friend in the car? really? *boggle*

When I lived on residence, I was the only one in my group of friends who had a car - and I'd also frequently be the DD. This would pretty much stop the ability to pile into a car with 4 other people (1 in the front, 3 in the back), go off to a bar - then drive them all home SAFELY.

But the govt must look like it SEEMS to be doing something

Next thing you know, the age of drinking is going to get up to 21yrs old

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

I actually think that rule is silly but the point I am trying to make is that these are rules made trying to protect people, what's so wrong with that?

Instead of constantly whinging Jay, I would love to see you come up with better ideas...

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Originally posted by English Rachel I actually think that rule is silly but the point I am trying to make is that these are rules made trying to protect people, what's so wrong with that? Instead of constantly whinging Jay, I would love to see you come up with better ideas...

he did.

enforce the current drunk driving laws and slap a tough penalty on anyone breaking the offence.

educate

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

Why is Rachel out of her mind? She's right.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew lol as if people only have ONE beer anyway jokes!

Errrrm, I do lots of times.