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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN that your fear-mongering of central banks is completely misguided and ignorant.

You've mistaken me with someone else. You'll find that I haven't made a comment on the Central Banking scheme in months. You will find, however, statements implying I have no interest.

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you reap what you sow.

No I don't. You follow people around and attempt to call them names, and other petty bullshit. I stated fact that Executive Orders bypass congress, and here I am entwined in a waste of time with no other than you, Trlol. It's pedantic, unwarranted and childish.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} No I don't. You follow people around and attempt to call them names, and other petty bullshit. I stated fact that Executive Orders bypass congress, and here I am entwined in a waste of time with no other than you, Trlol. It's pedantic, unwarranted and childish.

no, i only follow the CTers around. im rather respectful to most of the rest of the people. like i said, you already displayed a certain reluctance to engage in real debate and the weighing up of factual evidence, so now this is just what we're reduced to. i'll leave you alone as soon as you stop posting obvious BS regurgitated from the likes of prisonplanet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, i only follow the CTers around. im rather respectful to most of the rest of the people. like i said, you already displayed a certain reluctance to engage in real debate and the weighing up of factual evidence, so now this is just what we're reduced to. i'll leave you alone as soon as you stop posting obvious BS regurgitated from the likes of prisonplanet.

Right. I'm really not interested.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru I did some research and the congress never passed those bills. So none of those are LAWS. Plus, most people are overreacting. The military will not do anything crazy.

Wait, are you German? Chilean? Philipino? Chinese? Burmese? Sudaness? Cogoless? South African?

I'm sure I've heard this before...

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Executive Orders bypass congress. n00b.

Do you have a source for this?

Where can I find, in US governmental documentation, what exactly an executive order is?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Nope, you are still mistaken. Everything you posted is ILLEGAL and will never be enforced.

ILLEGAL???

Typeing things is not illegal. What do you mean by this?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you believe that christianity is really sun worship. you believe central banks are out to get you. you believe 911 was orchestrated by the US government. you believe anything films like zeitgeist tell you. and you think im the joke!?

This is a fairly strong argument....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh, canada doesn't have a central bank (like every other country in the world)?

Our central bank is a bit of a joke and has even been criticized as such.

The big problem is that the job is a bit of a no brainer, look at what goes on in the US, modify slightly, cross fingers that the retards down south don't get to much power.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} You've mistaken me with someone else. You'll find that I haven't made a comment on the Central Banking scheme in months. You will find, however, statements implying I have no interest.

Central bank, ... no intrest... good one!

Don't Executive Orders override constitutional laws under the Patriot Act? I don't feel like doing research at work because the connection on this computer is slow, so please [like I even have to ask around here] correct me if I am wrong.

I don't really think this is up for conspiracy theory though, as it is - the essence here is that the US Government seems to be increasingly stationing troops within its own country, with anticipation for a terrorist attack - why now? Why not 5 years ago?

I don't think anyone is actually trying to say that Bush is about to tell all his soldiers to open fire on American civilians tomorrow or something - there's no indication of something so radical, and you'd have to be some paranoid internet nut to think so... Uhhh...

But that's just how encroachment works - you move slowly and cautiously, under the red flags of most peoples' sensibilities. I mean, most people are probably totally ok with this - after all, if it's in the name of homeland security, and I don't have to give up anything, sure, why not? It's really quite innocuous and barely even affects my everyday life, so why should I care? You close a road one day. Three the next. Then you start installing military checkpoints, but only at large events at first. Then all over the place. Soon you have troops marching in the streets, asking people for their Identifications - you're lenient at first, so as not to stir up people's concernes in the matter, but then people begin disappearing - you probably see where this is going. You tighten the grip gradually, eventually making any uprising by the people impossible, and you do this by convincing them that they've nothing at all to fear anymore.

I'm not saying this is going to happen, of course - I have no evidence of such. It could be truly harmless precautions, just as stated. But it seems to me that people who allow themselves to be under the rule of an invasive and militant Government deserve to be subjugated as such and most certainly have been in the past.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Don't Executive Orders override constitutional laws under the Patriot Act?

how is it possible to circumvent the constitution (assuming there is a direct contradiction) with legislation?

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Originally posted by atbell Do you have a source for this?

I'm sure if you did a little research on your own, you would find your answers much more convincing. A simple Google search brings up enough.

[size=1]http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2007/11/16/bushs-newest-tack-bypass-congress.html
Bush's Newest Tack: Bypass Congress
By Kenneth T. Walsh
Posted November 16, 2007
Since the start of his administration, President Bush has disdained what he calls "small ball," preferring to confront big problems with big solutions. Not anymore. As he tries to end-run a balky Congress, Bush is taking a page from Bill Clinton's playbook by adopting a series of mini-initiatives to change policy through executive orders and administration actions that don't require legislation.[/quote]

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Where can I find, in US governmental documentation, what exactly an executive order is?

If you're that concerned with it, you'll have to find it yourself. Wikipedia has a sufficient description of its function.

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Originally posted by atbell Central bank, ... no intrest... good one!

This forum is so redundant. I took part in threads concerning it, found myself out of depths in the arguments and rescinded.

People need to realise that the world moves on much quicker than text disappears. Moving on?

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Originally posted by atbell This is a fairly strong argument....

..Unlike many of yours. Jesus. I believe 9/11 was an inside job, and I think Christianity is utter jokes, I'm not interested in the American Federal Reserve Banking system [remember?] and the fourth on the list is utterly useless. A generalised statement that holds no water. I'm anything but a sheep.

Why the need for circular arguing and semantics? It's such a waste of time.