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Originally posted by Gypsy The idea of female leadership is not a foreign concept to the Brits. They've come through the ages under the guidance of numerous Queens. Yes, Thatcher 'ruled' in a parliamentary context, but if you take the fundamentals, the position of leadership and it being held by a female, it still isn't the same as what's happening in the States.

ohhhh... i like you

call me a cynic or whatever, but following points amuse me
-people who think Obama is their personal saviour or something, esp those that are not yanks (I'm looking at you esp, kenyans)
-people who expect Obama to singlehandedly make things right (high expectations usually means disappointment)
-people who treat Obama like some sort of superstar celebrity (he's a politician, not an entertainer)
-people who think the current 'recession' is like the Great Depression, and Obama to solve all their money problems
-people who make a big deal out of Obama being first black president (he's only half black)
-people who give Obama lots of brownie points for being a great orator (Adolf Hitler was one helluva orator too. Deeds, not words that matter)

just reading a bunch of internet forums and people flocking the TV to watch this, like they've never seen a Presidential inauguration before or something. Or expect Obama to be the next Jesus

it is lulz

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Does his skin colour make any difference in his ability to run the country? People are saying this is bringing together the human race....which is absolute bullshit....people who didn't like black people before this still don't like black people and black people who didn't like white people...guess what....still don't like white people. The past is the past...time to let go.

Spoken like a true middle class white man. It's important and significant because it has never happened before. Recording history is about recording those milestones that our society reaches. Like it or not, care or not, Obama as president of the USA is one of them.

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Originally posted by Yohan just reading a bunch of internet forums and people flocking the TV to watch this, like they've never seen a Presidential inauguration before or something.

for most of them it is the first Presidential Inauguration they've seen.

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Originally posted by Yohan obama may have not made an issue out it, but certain people did... lol. you're not even a yank. is obama your personal saviour too? the biggest political story for me today was that the cons and the libs are getting closer to a budget deal (see what I'm trying to drive at?)

dude you're forgeting that they're just around the corner
so yes I'd like it to have at least a semi-sane President :P

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I'd really like to know just how much Obama relates to being a 'black man'. Considering his father had very little influence on him, how does Obama really feel about being identified as a 'black' president, when his mother and maternal grandparents had most parental influence on him?

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Spoken like a true middle class white man. It's important and significant because it has never happened before. Recording history is about recording those milestones that our society reaches. Like it or not, care or not, Obama as president of the USA is one of them.

would it be significant if he was the first blonde president?

It should be nothing more then a foot note in the history books....if this had happened during times when blacks didn't have the same legal rights as whites then yes...it would be a huge milestone in the history of the USA. Its happened at a time when blacks have the same legal rights....it would be more historical if he was gay...rather then black.

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Originally posted by Yohan call me a cynic or whatever, but following points amuse me -people who think Obama is their personal saviour or something, esp those that are not yanks (I'm looking at you esp, kenyans) -people who expect Obama to singlehandedly make things right (high expectations usually means disappointment) -people who treat Obama like some sort of superstar celebrity (he's a politician, not an entertainer) -people who think the current 'recession' is like the Great Depression, and Obama to solve all their money problems -people who make a big deal out of Obama being first black president (he's only half black) -people who give Obama lots of brownie points for being a great orator (Adolf Hitler was one helluva orator too. Deeds, not words that matter)

People who believe most of these things are a joke, and will probably lead shitty lives no matter what. That is their own problem, and that does not mean for the rest of us sane people, we cannot admire and celebrate what see as significant for other reasons.

He is a great orator, and that is that. They are not saying that his speech skills will solve problems, only that he is inspiring to listen to. Did you have any confidence in Bush when he spoke? I know I didn't. A great leader is more than what they do, but it consistently translates into how they do it, and how they are able to get others to do what they need to do.

I liked his speech because it was not pie in the sky. He said straight up, get off your asses and work people! There is no easy fix, and the only way problems are solved is with some good old fashioned elbow grease. He recognizes the tough situation he is in, and the tough situation the country is in, he is telling it like it is.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced would it be significant if he was the first blonde president?

Wow dude, you take the cake. Worst comparison ever.

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Originally posted by Orko People who believe most of these things are a joke, and will probably lead shitty lives no matter what. That is their own problem, and that does not mean for the rest of us sane people, we cannot admire and celebrate what see as significant for other reasons.

what you see as a celebration i see a circus

i work in a work environment where strong leadership is a must.
the leaders i admire the most led by example, not by words.

too often someone with fancy ass speeches did not deliver.

i have no problem with what obama is saying. i do have a problem with what seems to be a lot of false hope generating from election of obama

lol@'rest of sane people'

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Orko Wow dude, you take the cake. Worst comparison ever.

I would think its obvious I was being a smart ass.

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Today is the beginning of the end. The United States of America will have their first female president sooner than later after today's historic event. I will not be looking forward to that day...

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced would it be significant if he was the first blonde president?

It would be if blondes were taken away from Scandanavia and endentured as slaves. I see what you're saying though. Since slavery is now a historical fact American society should realize the great steps they have already taken and stop dwelling on the past. I completely agree but I don't think it is that easy when racism is systematic. It still signifies an acheivement and a sign of how far a racist country has come.