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Originally posted by blakh0rse Ya know... some of us might actually be Republican. ;] But the party has def gone downhill. I dont think I really relate to it at all...

if you can't relate to the values of the party, have you ever asked yourself why you continue to associate with it? i know in high school it was the cool thing to do, but when was the last time you thought about what the party did for you or america?

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Originally posted by R!CH if you can't relate to the values of the party, have you ever asked yourself why you continue to associate with it? i know in high school it was the cool thing to do, but when was the last time you thought about what the party did for you or america?

+1. More and more people are asking this which is why the GOP are in so much trouble now.

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Originally posted by steppenwolf You might have to switch to 'Bugles' now ...but we're going to get through this!

bugles sound good right about now

munchie time

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Originally posted by R!CH if you can't relate to the values of the party, have you ever asked yourself why you continue to associate with it? i know in high school it was the cool thing to do, but when was the last time you thought about what the party did for you or america?

The party hasn't done good things lately, no. But I do still believe in a lot of things it ...supposedly stands for. I may be registered, but don't necessarily vote Republican, and that's okay. Just because I don't agree with my own party, doesn't mean I'm going to swing the other way necessarily either.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal bugles sound good right about now munchie time

Cereal FTW!! I've been eating nothing but Lucky Charms and Cocoa Pebbles lately. Once in a while get something more substantial in there...

Seeing as its munchy time right now at 10:30pm, its Cocoa Pebbles.

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Originally posted by steppenwolf You might have to switch to 'Bugles' now ...but we're going to get through this!

I literally laughed out loud, lol.

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Originally posted by blakh0rse The party hasn't done good things lately, no. But I do still believe in a lot of things it ...supposedly stands for. I may be registered, but don't necessarily vote Republican, and that's okay. Just because I don't agree with my own party, doesn't mean I'm going to swing the other way necessarily either.

totally agree. And it may seem like ages ago, but the democrats were a mess just a few years ago, lacking leadership and direction. Its a two party system, the republican party will rebound and it will continue to go back and forth.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen totally agree. And it may seem like ages ago, but the democrats were a mess just a few years ago, lacking leadership and direction. Its a two party system, the republican party will rebound and it will continue to go back and forth.

Maybe, but when the republican's party leader is a radio man drug addict (rush limbaugh) i think the problems are here to stay for a long while.

And, yesterdays vote on the recovery bill illistrates how little the republican party wants to work with our new president and fix the economy. All 178 house repubs voted NO on the bill after numerous meetings and bipartisan efforts by mr. obama in the last week, that was a huge slap in the face. The stimulus plan was even watered down with tax cuts to make republicans happy. Obama has met with house and senate republicans more times in one week than Bush met with the dems in EIGHT YEARS, that is not a joke, Bush met with the dems TWICE in eight years.

Republicans are gonna have to do a lot more than swing from the nuts of "giants" (their words) like Limbaugh and hannity to reclaim their "leadership and direction".

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen totally agree. And it may seem like ages ago, but the democrats were a mess just a few years ago, lacking leadership and direction. Its a two party system, the republican party will rebound and it will continue to go back and forth.

it's a two party system, but nobody said you have to pick a team and play the role of cheerleader when one is out of line. unlike the sporting world, loyalty isn't an admirable quality in the world of party politics. if "your" party is championing issues and ideas you don't agree with, then why wrap yourself in that packaging? are you incapable of developing an ideology and having principles of your own without identifying with one of the two common denominators? this kind of behavior reminds me of the sunday-morning christian...one who calls himself a christian just to bear the label, but whose actions and thoughts have very little in common with the real standard bearers. in either case the only appeal i can think of is the image.

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and here is what's happening now under Obama's watch:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/23/aut...sion=2009012909

it's funny how even an economist finds this to be good.

My point is, no one is an saint and no one can fix the problem unless citizens themselves take charge and understand what's going on.

The easiest thing to do is to blame others for problems and everyone does this. I think the people who should be blamed for all this is us. We should have a voice but unfortunately the people with voice are the people with money such as special interest lobbyist. The only way to fix this problem in the long term is if the American people know what the fuck is going on but unfortunately people just don't give a fuck about that and just think selfishly. All they care about is themselves. There are also many dumb people out there or people who fail to see the big picture. It's ok to be wrong but it's dumb to be wrong and ignorant.