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| quote: | Originally posted by haqq
My stance on the holocaust is as this man has said:
"I wrote in detail about the Holocaust and said I did not want to discuss numbers. I quoted an argument between historians in which various numbers of casualties were mentioned. One wrote there were 12 million victims and another wrote there were 800,000. I have no desire to argue with the figures. The Holocaust was a terrible, unforgivable crime against the Jewish nation, a crime against humanity that cannot be accepted by humankind. The Holocaust was a terrible thing and nobody can claim I denied it." |
Soviet Union lost 24 million people in that war. And a majority of them werent killed by gas chambers. Nazi machine was just a very effective killing machine. Its not about whether they had enough bullets or gas chambers to do it. They just DID it.
The real issue here is the issue of Holocaust itself, not the "disputed" numbers. Of course millions of Jews died at the hands of Nazis and their collaborators. The real question should be - do Jews deserve to have the sole credit for the suffering in World War II (denial of which is prosecutable in several EU countries), or was genocide also aimed at other groups - like Slavs / Russians, Romas / Gypsies.
I dont think that Jews are much more special than other groups who suffered in that war, as Nazis had specific plans to enslave and eradicate Slavs - isnt that a planned genocide?
A lot of people know about the (Jewish) Holocaust. Out of those people, fewer people know that there were other big victims of that war who deserve to be remembered and brought to light, but the Jewish of course feel like they are special, and to a certain degree they are right, but it certainly isnt appropriate considering how so many other people suffered in that war and the textbooks hardly cover any of that. While we do know the details of the gas chambers and even lists of Jews, the story is even well portrayed in such blockbusters as Schindler's List, Pianist, Sunshine, etc. etc. etc.
What many people dont know is that the gas chambers WERE NOT EXCLUSIVE for Jews, there were millions of Russians and other peoples who perished there and in the Nazi concentration camps.
THATS an issue, scrutinizing the NUMBERS of dead in chambers is a RETARDED logic, and its just an EXCUSE to look for to satisfy a anti-semitic view.
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