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Originally posted by Zentac_75 Words stolen right from my mouth..... although from most parents I've talked too actually having children is the cause of growing up!

There's nothing wrong with still being a little bit of a kid at heart when you have a kid (as long as you're responsible and mature in the important situations and don't let the kid in you get in the way of the kid of your own).

I just love kids....they're like little drunken midgets!

Will I have kids one day? I'm not planning on it.

I know I'm only 7 months into the whole parenting thing; however, my daughter is truly the greatest gift I've ever received. Yes the responsibility and obligations are many but the rewards far outweigh them. That said, the decision to have children is a highly personal one... not everyone has the aptitude or will to raise children and those who don't really shouldn't.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

My parents are happy that my sister has popped one out with a 2nd on the way I love my nephew dearly, more so than any other kid I've come across and it has warmed me up to them a great deal.

I still have no plans on having a child of my own, and I think that makes my parents upset. They want me to know the "joy and fulfillment that comes from having a child".

Considering I currently live in a bach apt and 15g in student debt - a kid ain't gunna happen any time soon :P and my partner doesn't want one either, and if we did - we'd have to go through the adoption process, so it'd need to be a pretty conscious effort not a "Hey honey, lets not use a condom tonight!" try on a whim.

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Originally posted by Kellyboop There's nothing wrong with still being a little bit of a kid at heart when you have a kid (as long as you're responsible and mature in the important situations and don't let the kid in you get in the way of the kid of your own). I just love kids....they're like little drunken midgets!

There is being a child at heart, and being childish. One is a good quality for an adult to have, the other not so much.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I'd say that 95% of your facts come directly from your ass. As a rough guess, I'd say that, oh about 4.8 shitloads of couples tend to buy houses before having kids, which already puts them well in excess of the $50,000 net worth bracket. Maybe the cash isn't lying around in some low-interest bank account - presumably because most people have more sense than that - but I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant.

I did say it was my guess didn't I???

And you're going to tell me that ...JESSE... Was talking about net worth???

Forget about him actually saying 50,000 " saved up"...

But keep disagreeing with me just for the sake of it...

Douche-cannon...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

the world would be a depressing sad place without my spawn.

i think that would be the best thing i could do for this earth. so yes, i would like a kid.

i would like a kid at some point.

peter when did you get married???

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Originally posted by Kellyboop It's definitely not for the financially unsettled. I used to volunteer at an orphanage in Taipei and they had nothing but success with middle class to upper middle class western couples wanting to adopt kids from overseas (America, Canada, Australia, UK, Holland, etc.). Yes there are a few requirements of the parents (have to be financially sound, physically healthy) but it's not an insanely expensive and stressful process. There are unfortunately a lot of babies and infants in Asia that get tossed to orphanages and temples (if a couple has twins it's considered unlucky as even numbers are bad luck, light physical disfigurements, father was a western guy who impregnated an asian girl, took off and she chose not to get an abortion, etc.)

I have a friend who adopted twice from Russia and it was a VERY expensive ordeal. Not only the process and paper work, but travelling to Russia 2 or 3 times over several months added up.

All in, it cost him about $45,000-$50,000 each time.

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Originally posted by nadezhda nope. apart from your typical overpopulation/world is totally messed up reasons, i've never really seen them in my future. i don't want that amount of responsibility, nor do i want to be pregnant for 9 months, go through excruciating labour (i think it was the video in grade 11 biology that freaked me out), then have to take care/worry about the child for the rest of its life, not to mention the expense involved. i also worry that i'd be a crap parent or that i'd end up with some little monster. i fully admit i'm also too selfish, but at least i'm honest about it. that's awesome that other people want children and i like my friend's children and my neices and nephews --- i'm not some child-hating monster. they're just not for me. and you know what i really find offensive? when people find out and they say "oh, when you settle down you'll change your mind" because you can't possibly not want children in this world! you never know, maybe i will, but i find it really obnoxious when people say that. i think i'll just get a puppy instead.

You stole the words right out of my mouth. Add on explaining why your kid/s have 2 mommies instead of 1 and you've got all of my reasons for avoiding having kids.

I've always wanted a Pug. Sounds like a great idea.

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby hows the new wifey working out ummie??

Its a perfect match,Im really happy.She caring,romantic,funny and is very out going so its a win win situation for me.

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Originally posted by kaniz My parents are happy that my sister has popped one out with a 2nd on the way

yeah, i'm totally off the hook...my parents have 9 grandchildren so no pressure for me to procreate!

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