Actually, working with composers on a daily basis, and as someone with a very rudimentary musical skill level myself, I find the musical part in most people who do it often DOES come naturally. By definition a musician is someone that has developed their musical skills. Someone who "dabbles a bit" or a "plays a bit of guitar" isn't a really musician.
Earlier I stated the engineers I work with just "know" what they want to achieve in their head and through practice know how to fluidly translate that in to results.
Being musically creative is a slightly different thing but a similar thought process comes in to play. What you hear in head needs to translate to results and with practice you learn the boundaries of your abilities, what works and what doesn't, what sounds good to you and or others and how to make your desired sounds. Musician, composers and even producers all have to do this to become even decent - being born with it is incredibly rare - i've only met a couple of people that just have it, and truly they are on a different level in terms of ability.
In fact I find that muscians if anything have a harder time with the technical than the creative as the musical part is learnt and applied creatively - the technical part as joel said is key in our music type as it is integral to the music nearly more so than any other artform involving technology.
This is all just different ways (HW vs SW) to the same thing so it has nothing to with whats better or or what's right, just what people prefer and works best for them.
Mar-10-2009 22:16
Subtle
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Actually, working with composers on a daily basis, and as someone with a very rudimentary musical skill level myself, I find the musical part in most people who do it often DOES come naturally. By definition a musician is someone that has developed their musical skills. Someone who "dabbles a bit" or a "plays a bit of guitar" isn't a really musician.
Earlier I stated the engineers I work with just "know" what they want to achieve in their head and through practice know how to fluidly translate that in to results.
Being musically creative is a slightly different thing but a similar thought process comes in to play. What you hear in head needs to translate to results and with practice you learn the boundaries of your abilities, what works and what doesn't, what sounds good to you and or others and how to make your desired sounds. Musician, composers and even producers all have to do this to become even decent - being born with it is incredibly rare - i've only met a couple of people that just have it, and truly they are on a different level in terms of ability.
In fact I find that muscians if anything have a harder time with the technical than the creative as the musical part is learnt and applied creatively - the technical part as joel said is key in our music type as it is integral to the music nearly more so than any other artform involving technology.
This is all just different ways (HW vs SW) to the same thing so it has nothing to with whats better or or what's right, just what people prefer and works best for them.
Originally posted by cryophonik
"oh, you CAN polish a turd - I don't need to waste my time improving my musical skills because sidechaining and mastering is more important. Deadmau5 said so!"
Behold! Polished Dirt! Something like this could only come out of Japan.
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Mar-10-2009 23:13
DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Actually, working with composers on a daily basis, and as someone with a very rudimentary musical skill level myself, I find the musical part in most people who do it often DOES come naturally. By definition a musician is someone that has developed their musical skills. Someone who "dabbles a bit" or a "plays a bit of guitar" isn't a really musician.
Earlier I stated the engineers I work with just "know" what they want to achieve in their head and through practice know how to fluidly translate that in to results.
Both true. Either writing music or dealing with engineering issues during the day (that's... engineering engineering, not sound engineering), I tend to work mostly at an intuitive level. It wasn't always that way - and you can work through the same problems methodically - but it's actually quite frustrating now when intuition fails and I have to start breaking it down.
Some people take longer to get to that point and that's OK - but nobody gets there by merely dabbling. The journey from "competent" to "adept" is thousands of hours long.
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Mar-10-2009 23:36
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