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Originally posted by Eric J My wife has the same problems with her Toshiba laptop. We have to periodically blow all the dust out of the processor vents using compressed air or the thing will overheat and shut down on her. Apparently, this is fairly common with the Satellite series. The Apple hardware is definitely top notch. You will notice that the MBP can get pretty hot on the bottom if you are running anything processor intensive, but it is nothing to worry about.

So how long do you think a macbook can go for without starting to burn out? It seems like most PCs tend to burn out after 1.5-3 years, and theres really no cure for it. I'm assuming its because of cumulative heat damage, especially in hot countries like australia.

Will a macbook last me longer do you think?

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Originally posted by kitphillips So how long do you think a macbook can go for without starting to burn out? It seems like most PCs tend to burn out after 1.5-3 years, and theres really no cure for it. I'm assuming its because of cumulative heat damage, especially in hot countries like australia. Will a macbook last me longer do you think?

Well thats all going to be subjective. I mean the MacBook is no different than any other notebook as far as durability. If you take good care of it, then it should last you for quite a while. If you gig with it, it will probably burn out quicker then if you keep it at home all the time. That's going to be true of any notebook, regardless of manufacturer.

I have had my Dell Desktop PC for almost 5 years now and it is still just fine. No problems whatsoever. I also have a PowerEdge server that I have had for almost 4 years and it's also just fine, so I'm not sure why you are thinking that most PC's burn out in 3 years. Its just like anything else, if you take good care of it, it will last you a long time. A well cared for machine will most likely become obsolete long before any of the components physically fail.

The problem you mentioned is specific to Toshiba Satellite notebooks, and actually to their A70 series notebooks. There was even a class-action lawsuit filed against Toshiba regarding the overheating problem on their A70 series notebooks.

If you are looking for a good class of notebook in the PC arena, try checking out HP or Dell's line of business class notebooks. Those notebooks are generally going to be built better than cheap consumer notebooks and are probably going to be more suited for the type of processor-intensive tasks we are all doing. Ditto for desktops.

The problem is that when people who don't know research PC's, they always look at the "Home" offerings when really you should be considering the business class products for studio use, because they are generally better suited for production work. The business class stuff is going to be more expensive than the home stuff, for sure, but it's built with better quality components.

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Originally posted by kitphillips So how long do you think a macbook can go for without starting to burn out? It seems like most PCs tend to burn out after 1.5-3 years, and theres really no cure for it. I'm assuming its because of cumulative heat damage, especially in hot countries like australia. Will a macbook last me longer do you think?

The Macbook feels hot by design... the casing is used for heat dissipation.

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Originally posted by Khayat I think that's the Bottom line (Greatly said Lolo)

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by kitphillips So how long do you think a macbook can go for without starting to burn out? It seems like most PCs tend to burn out after 1.5-3 years, and theres really no cure for it.

wat

i use our 233mhz p2 from 9 years ago for our gateway and print server, and it works fine... original hard drive even. the only thing you need to worry about is capacitors starting to bulge, but that will only start to happen on a shit house motherboard.

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Originally posted by Eric J Well thats all going to be subjective. I mean the MacBook is no different than any other notebook as far as durability. If you take good care of it, then it should last you for quite a while. If you gig with it, it will probably burn out quicker then if you keep it at home all the time. That's going to be true of any notebook, regardless of manufacturer. I have had my Dell Desktop PC for almost 5 years now and it is still just fine. No problems whatsoever. I also have a PowerEdge server that I have had for almost 4 years and it's also just fine, so I'm not sure why you are thinking that most PC's burn out in 3 years. Its just like anything else, if you take good care of it, it will last you a long time. A well cared for machine will most likely become obsolete long before any of the components physically fail. The problem you mentioned is specific to Toshiba Satellite notebooks, and actually to their A70 series notebooks. There was even a class-action lawsuit filed against Toshiba regarding the overheating problem on their A70 series notebooks. If you are looking for a good class of notebook in the PC arena, try checking out HP or Dell's line of business class notebooks. Those notebooks are generally going to be built better than cheap consumer notebooks and are probably going to be more suited for the type of processor-intensive tasks we are all doing. Ditto for desktops. The problem is that when people who don't know research PC's, they always look at the "Home" offerings when really you should be considering the business class products for studio use, because they are generally better suited for production work. The business class stuff is going to be more expensive than the home stuff, for sure, but it's built with better quality components.

Yeah my toshiba's actually a p100 satellite model, the problem appears to be the fact that it has fans in the bottom of the chassis, which are the intake vents Stupid design. It runs really hot too and seems to have just melted itself a bit, affecting its performance.

Maybe I'll look into other PCs, but I'm thinking that if a macbook pro will cost the same as a similarly speced PC of similar quality, then thats probably the best option as its tried and tested. Durability is what I'm looking for really.

Echo, I don't know if your talking about a laptop or a desktop, but my computer at this point runs slower than it did a year ago even after a complete rebuild its noticable on games (I don't play an awful lot, but even I'VE noticed), production, even internet browsing FFS So the performance is definately affected by age in this case.

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Originally posted by Lolo here we go again, but fortunately this part of TA is now platform wars free, most of the time a Mac is a pc with a different OS on it. End of story. Many still rely on Windows xp and/or vista because they got used to it, that's GREAT. I'm left handed, and studies prove that left handed people tend to like Mac OS more, which is my case, so GREAT. But I didn't forget that many of my past records were made on a windows 3.11 app called cakewalk... You should have a mac so you can run both systems. If you don't like Mac OS, don't get a Mac, and the bill will be cheaper. This is a Mac User posting here, and I now want you to do one single thing: listen to yourself and not others, whether they're mac or pc. If people weren't arguing on forums at times, things would get better in their lives, if things got better in their lives, they'd be working harder, get more money off work, and then spend more money, be part of their local economy, that would make a huge growth of employment. Stop arguing, start working.

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Don´t listen to anyone else than yourself, and go buy your mac already.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Yeah my toshiba's actually a p100 satellite model, the problem appears to be the fact that it has fans in the bottom of the chassis, which are the intake vents Stupid design. It runs really hot too and seems to have just melted itself a bit, affecting its performance.

Yes, this is the same design as the A70 series. They haven't really changed the design in any of their modern notebook products, and they all suffer from the overheating problem to some degree.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Maybe I'll look into other PCs, but I'm thinking that if a macbook pro will cost the same as a similarly speced PC of similar quality, then thats probably the best option as its tried and tested. Durability is what I'm looking for really.

I'll tell you that the MBP is the best notebook I have ever owned, and I have owned quite a few. Design, features, quality of construction, they are all top notch. You won't be disappointed.

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Originally posted by Subtle Everyone who use a MAC will tell you to get it too.

lol not me wheres the start button to stop it? not logical imo

Too bad they removed firewire from the base macbooks. Those were my favorite notebooks for audio production.

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