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Originally posted by Lucidity I'm in love with the new and still in love with the old. I just love mostly all trance unless it is too happy but, even the happy ones, if I'm in the mood for it. Did alot of you guys like Mauro Picotto, I still obsess over the live recording, Mauro Picotto - Live at Trance Energy, its an older one from around 2000? Well I was just listening to that cd today, since you guys were talking old, I took a trip back..... To me, todays trance for the most part sounds better to my ears, with some exceptions anyway. There is just soo much music out there, there is phenomenal of both old and new, and crap of both old and new. Whatever, I just adapt, and the music I make is a spin off of everything I hear and everything I feel so, I try to absorb everything out there.

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There are people today that still make amazing and non-generic music, right from their heart. It's just so much more of it you have to do an effort and go hunt it out to find it.

I'll name a few insane producers of today:

Leon Bolier
Marcel Woods
Sander Van Doorn
Joop
Duderstadt/Inpetto
The Blizzard!
Arnej
Deadmau5
Marcus Schossow
Matan Zohar
Markus Schulz
Bart Claessen
Cosmic Gate still goes strong

Oh man theres so many!!! And they're just spitting out new masterpieces time after time!!

And all the DJs listed above use the same formulaic crap. You could give me a set and have me listen to it from any of those producers above and I wouldn't be able to tell you who is who. However; I will damn sure be able to tell you when an Oliver Lieb production is spinning on the technics.

The "uniqueness" between now and the late 90's is without question "different" - Some may enjoy the newer sounds, but I miss the older ones and I've got a feeling many more do as well.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley And all the DJs listed above use the same formulaic crap. You could give me a set and have me listen to it from any of those producers above and I wouldn't be able to tell you who is who.

Must be something wrong with your ears then? Because all of those producers above have a very distinctive style to their own and i could point it out in a heartbeat.



And add Kyau & Albert to that list!

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley And all the DJs listed above use the same formulaic crap. You could give me a set and have me listen to it from any of those producers above and I wouldn't be able to tell you who is who. However; I will damn sure be able to tell you when an Oliver Lieb production is spinning on the technics. The "uniqueness" between now and the late 90's is without question "different" - Some may enjoy the newer sounds, but I miss the older ones and I've got a feeling many more do as well.

I'm just curious why you named this thread 1999 vs 2009, Its kinda misleading to make a thread that spans 10 years and then focus it on bashing Trance music. Every genre of music has gone down the toilet from 1999 to 2009. Pop, Rock, Hip Hop have probably seen the biggest displacement in quality for starters, and I guess triumphantly House and Techno have either maintained quality, improved, or evolved nicely in areas. Even Trance isn't too displaced from 99. But Pop Rock Hip Hop...yikes, down the tubes, especially the last 5 years.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley And all the DJs listed above use the same formulaic crap. You could give me a set and have me listen to it from any of those producers above and I wouldn't be able to tell you who is who.

I would.

To be honest I don't think you are too into the good stuff getting released these days if you can't pinpoint the difference in styles between these. I think your mind must have gotten stuck in 99 mister.

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Originally posted by lenieNt Force x2^10 There are people today that still make amazing and non-generic music, right from their heart. It's just so much more of it you have to do an effort and go hunt it out to find it. I'll name a few insane producers of today: Leon Bolier Marcel Woods Sander Van Doorn Joop Duderstadt/Inpetto The Blizzard! Arnej Deadmau5 Marcus Schossow Matan Zohar Markus Schulz Bart Claessen Cosmic Gate still goes strong Oh man theres so many!!! And they're just spitting out new masterpieces time after time!!

I read so many posts like this one, amnd all of them contradict themselves.

You say that there are great trance tunes out there today, they are just harder to find. But then when you list some examples of producers making these tunes, you list big name established producers who get played by all the top trance DJ's and signed to the biggest labels. THESE ARE NOT HARD TO FIND!

Like I say, I read many posts that say the same as you. Each time I question whether I need to start looking harder and make more of an effort. Yet everytime, their examples of good tunes/producers are well known, common, and easy to find.

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Originally posted by lenieNt Force x2^10 There are people today that still make amazing and non-generic music, right from their heart. It's just so much more of it you have to do an effort and go hunt it out to find it. I'll name a few insane producers of today: Leon Bolier Marcel Woods Sander Van Doorn Joop Duderstadt/Inpetto The Blizzard! Arnej Deadmau5 Marcus Schossow Matan Zohar Markus Schulz Bart Claessen Cosmic Gate still goes strong Oh man theres so many!!! And they're just spitting out new masterpieces time after time!!

wow what a bad list man, u must be a noob. these are amongs the ones who helps destroy the scene imo. absolutely nothing original to provide.

sander van doorn was awesome before he got popular and blizzard has some serious talents but the rest of the list mostly suck imo.

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Originally posted by G-Con I read so many posts like this one, amnd all of them contradict themselves. You say that there are great trance tunes out there today, they are just harder to find. But then when you list some examples of producers making these tunes, you list big name established producers who get played by all the top trance DJ's and signed to the biggest labels. THESE ARE NOT HARD TO FIND! Like I say, I read many posts that say the same as you. Each time I question whether I need to start looking harder and make more of an effort. Yet everytime, their examples of good tunes/producers are well known, common, and easy to find.

Heh.. well.. There is a reason for why these are well known. They make brilliant tunes. Ofcourse I will list them then. When you guys say you can't find good tunes these days, I actually begin to suspect you are failing to see what these guys are spitting out. I don't care about their fame, it's about the music. So you want the exact kinda trance music they made back in the day? Listen to psychedelic trance. That's probably when you have to look a little harder.

When I pointed out those producers, I wasn't referring to producers who made oldschool trance. I was simply pointing towards the innovative producers of today. Producers who live in the present and not in the past.

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Originally posted by palm wow what a bad list man, u must be a noob. these are amongs the ones who helps destroy the scene imo. absolutely nothing original to provide. sander van doorn was awesome before he got popular and blizzard has some serious talents but the rest of the list mostly suck imo.

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Originally posted by lenieNt Force x2^10 There are people today that still make amazing and non-generic music, right from their heart. It's just so much more of it you have to do an effort and go hunt it out to find it. I'll name a few insane producers of today: Leon Bolier Marcel Woods Sander Van Doorn Joop Duderstadt/Inpetto The Blizzard! Arnej Deadmau5 Marcus Schossow Matan Zohar Markus Schulz Bart Claessen Cosmic Gate still goes strong Oh man theres so many!!! And they're just spitting out new masterpieces time after time!!

If that is a list of non-generic material, i have to ask you what you think is generic material ?

Marcel Woods - Advanced rocks though

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Originally posted by Subtle If that is a list of non-generic material, i have to ask you what you think is generic material ? Marcel Woods - Advanced rocks though

Ok I can withdraw that word, each producer has their own distinctive style ofcourse. But compared to eachother the matter is different.



Nothing wrong with having your own sound. On the contrary. Most bands out there has their own peculiarity that they get reputition for. It's what makes them recognizable.

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Ohh geeehzz.. this is now turning into the "you think you're underground, but your compilation educated material" thread....

This is not about naming undergrounds next big thing, but if you cannot hear the difference between the typical SVD 16c Logic groove on an dotted 8th beat. and the ARMIN ASOT tunes, you've got a lot to catch up with........

Dunno what direction you guys want to take this thread, but it's not about 90ties anymore.....

If you want to hear really new stuff? go to the producer promotion forum and listen to the next generation waiting to be discovered..... is THAT underground an real enough for you?!?

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