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cronodevir
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
When you're going off on a rant about how everybody else is uneducated, it doesn't help your point that you can't spell the word "lay". For an utterly useless and trite post, you get a trite reply.


Yes, I said people were uneducated.


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quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
Yes, I said people were uneducated.


what are you studying in

(not expecting to diss you, just curious)

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cronodevir
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quote:
Originally posted by gr8ape
what are you studying in

(not expecting to diss you, just curious)


Logic and Rhetoric, too bad you don't learn those in school anymore.


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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by gr8ape
what are you studying in

I believe it's douche nozzlery with a minor in bible thumping.


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quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
Logic and Rhetoric, too bad you don't learn those in school anymore.


so....philosophy?

and yeah you learn those in school
lol

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Logic and Rhetoric, too bad you don't learn those in school anymore.

Bahahaha that is such BS, they don't offer that as an entire university program. What are you, poli sci? Philosophy? LOL.


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quote:
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Logic and Rhetoric, too bad you don't learn those in school anymore.


Also, Logic and Rhetoric isn't philosophy.


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Also, Logic and Rhetoric isn't philosophy.


Branches of philosophy

The following branches are the main areas of study:

* Metaphysics investigates the nature of being and the world. Traditional branches are cosmology and ontology.
* Epistemology is concerned with the nature and scope of knowledge, and whether knowledge is possible. Among its central concerns has been the challenge posed by skepticism and the relationships between truth, belief, and justification.
* Ethics, or 'moral philosophy', is concerned with questions of how persons ought to act or if such questions are answerable. The main branches of ethics are meta-ethics, normative ethics, and applied ethics. Meta-ethics concerns the nature of ethical thought, comparison of various ethical systems, whether there are absolute ethical truths, and how such truths could be known. Ethics is also associated with the idea of morality. Plato's early dialogues include a search for definitions of virtue.
* Political philosophy is the study of government and the relationship of individuals and communities to the state. It includes questions about justice, the good, law, property, and the rights and obligations of the citizen.
* Aesthetics deals with beauty, art, enjoyment, sensory-emotional values, perception, and matters of taste and sentiment.
* Logic deals with patterns of thinking that lead from true premises to true conclusions, originally developed in Ancient Greece. Beginning in the late 19th century, mathematicians such as Frege focused on a mathematical treatment of logic, and today the subject of logic has two broad divisions: mathematical logic (formal symbolic logic) and what is now called philosophical logic.
* Philosophy of mind deals with the nature of the mind and its relationship to the body, and is typified by disputes between dualism and materialism. In recent years there has been increasing similarity between this branch of philosophy and cognitive science.
* Philosophy of language is the reasoned inquiry into the nature, origins, and usage of language.

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Branches of philosophy

The following branches are the main areas of study:

* Metaphysics investigates the nature of being and the world. Traditional branches are cosmology and ontology.
* Epistemology is concerned with the nature and scope of knowledge, and whether knowledge is possible. Among its central concerns has been the challenge posed by skepticism and the relationships between truth, belief, and justification.
* Ethics, or 'moral philosophy', is concerned with questions of how persons ought to act or if such questions are answerable. The main branches of ethics are meta-ethics, normative ethics, and applied ethics. Meta-ethics concerns the nature of ethical thought, comparison of various ethical systems, whether there are absolute ethical truths, and how such truths could be known. Ethics is also associated with the idea of morality. Plato's early dialogues include a search for definitions of virtue.
* Political philosophy is the study of government and the relationship of individuals and communities to the state. It includes questions about justice, the good, law, property, and the rights and obligations of the citizen.
* Aesthetics deals with beauty, art, enjoyment, sensory-emotional values, perception, and matters of taste and sentiment.
* Logic deals with patterns of thinking that lead from true premises to true conclusions, originally developed in Ancient Greece. Beginning in the late 19th century, mathematicians such as Frege focused on a mathematical treatment of logic, and today the subject of logic has two broad divisions: mathematical logic (formal symbolic logic) and what is now called philosophical logic.
* Philosophy of mind deals with the nature of the mind and its relationship to the body, and is typified by disputes between dualism and materialism. In recent years there has been increasing similarity between this branch of philosophy and cognitive science.
* Philosophy of language is the reasoned inquiry into the nature, origins, and usage of language.


That is their premise. Its not universal. As I said, real Logic and Rhetoric isn't taught anymore. Also, Logic didn't originate from Greece lol...people have had logic since they existed. I don't know where you paste that from, but it sounds pretty draconian.


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Logic is part of philosophy, and also part of math in the form of set theory, provability, and foundations of mathematics courses.

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What is "real logic?" As opposed to what?

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Logic is part of philosophy, and also part of math in the form of set theory, provability, and foundations of mathematics courses.


Philosophy deals with the Why, which is usually a guess.

Logic deals with the How, which isn't a guess.

Logic dictates How X must be, Philosophy tries to understand Why X must be.


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