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derail
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia

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Originally posted by Dreamtea
Thanks for sharing.

A question though: "Sean stresses to never use your actual kick as your sidechain trigger. Rather he says to either use a closed hi-hat, or just the click from the very beginning of your kick. That is all you should ever be using"


Why is that?


This is his method, and it works for him. And as PutBoy said, some kicks have a long tail and it doesn't sound good using that particular kick to sidechain the bass. Using a really short sample as the sidechain input and adjusting the compressor's release will give you more flexibility in getting it to sound exactly how you want it.

But there are times when it's absolutely fine to use the actual kick. As long as you've been producing a while and can trust your ears - if it sounds good, it is good.

When people use words like "never" and "always", remember that that's their experience. I don't know if Sean Tyas has changed his sound radically recently, but if he's still going with the single "Sean Tyas" sound, then yes, in his case it is truly "never", since that's probably how his starting template is set up.

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Fuxzz
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Ok, thanks to both of you. I better investigate this further cause I have always used the actual kick

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Beatflux
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Thanks for asking Tyas those questions!

Airbase uses a shorter kick as his side chain.


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Magnus
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Sean said that he has seen tracks ruined by using the kick, mainly because of the tail so this is why he stresses to use just the snap of the kick or a closed hihat. I agree with derail however in that if it sounds good you should be fine. Furthermore even if you are using a kick with a tail as your trigger, you can adjust the sidechain compressor to compensate to get the same result you would get with a click.


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Fuxzz
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yeah of course if it sounds good ill use it, very good to know though so thanks

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EgosXII
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i always use a muted kick track above my actual kick with a really short kick, havn't thought about using a hat or something even smaller before thou, will have to try it...

it just makes it better for side-chaining because the ducking doesn't last way too long which happens a LOT with normal kicks that have tails... so you have no sound from the kick, but the lead or bass still ducking what is essentially silence...

it's just easier than spending ages working on the compressor to make up for it


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costizzle
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Seal Beach, Ca

thanks. i really appreciated this thread.

side note: i met sean in san francisco in november. very cool guy. you can tell how passionate he is about his music and that deserves thick respect.

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Sigmun
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Big thanks for doing this Magnus.

Can you remember any of the tips he was showing?

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PlasticSoul
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Great tips, thanks!

Did he give any tips on equalization?


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justjabbin
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Registered: May 2007
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thanks for the thread...Sean Tyas is the man top notch producer, DJ, and person.

If your reading this Sean congrats on the baby...they can be very inspirational!


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