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Bren-F
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Old Post Jul-04-2009 16:25  United Kingdom
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The17sss
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And continue to defend and rationalize her antics. Fascinating, really.


Dude... the spin is on again. You know I don't defend her "antics". I'm simply mentioning the obvious, overly hateful treatment she gets in comparison. I'm fucking glad she's out of politics!!! Sheesh. And on a side note, I stayed home on election day... I was so sickened by the ticket, I couldn't even vote for them as a "vote against Obama", which was my plan. So depressing.

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This has to be one of the biggest breaks the Republican party has gotten in 2 years


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Echo of Silence
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I think the reason she was met with such criticism and distaste is because she threw out such blatently false comments during the presidential campaign (i.e. Barak Obama hangs around with the terrorists) and responded so poorly, in fact incompetently, to questions in interviews.

You know, I could have answered those questions better than she did when I was 10 years old. Granted, I was a lil child wonder and all but for someone who could have inherited the presidency of the United States in an instant, she was really really bad.


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The17sss
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quote:
Originally posted by Echo of Silence
I think the reason she was met with such criticism and distaste is because she threw out such blatently false comments during the presidential campaign (i.e. Barak Obama hangs around with the terrorists) and responded so poorly, in fact incompetently, to questions in interviews.

You know, I could have answered those questions better than she did when I was 10 years old. Granted, I was a lil child wonder and all but for someone who could have inherited the presidency of the United States in an instant, she was really really bad.


To be fair, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn are domestic terrorists (who got off on a legal technicality), and Obama did/does "pal around with them" as she said. But your point is valid... she was a lousy communicator and just sounded like a baffoon on so many things. But that still doesn't excuse the level of shit she and her family have been saddled with since then. Why is it ok for someone to post a column on the Huffpo about her planning to run in 2012 on a "Retardation" platform, when you know damn well what would happen if say, the Politico ran an op-ed saying something like "Obama's daughters ask for fried chicken flavored ice-cream, throw tantrum when they don't get their way"..... or something. It's just been a sleezy new level of tastelessness a politician has ever been subjected to; I'd be saying the same thing if it was happening to a Democrat female.

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Echo of Silence
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quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
To be fair, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn are domestic terrorists (who got off on a legal technicality), and Obama did/does "pal around with them" as she said. But your point is valid... she was a lousy communicator and just sounded like a baffoon on so many things. But that still doesn't excuse the level of shit she and her family have been saddled with since then. Why is it ok for someone to post a column on the Huffpo about her planning to run in 2012 on a "Retardation" platform, when you know damn well what would happen if say, the Politico ran an op-ed saying something like "Obama's daughters ask for fried chicken flavored ice-cream, throw tantrum when they don't get their way"..... or something. It's just been a sleezy new level of tastelessness a politician has ever been subjected to; I'd be saying the same thing if it was happening to a Democrat female.


lol, dude, (I'm sorry, I don't know your name), Bill Ayers and his wife were considered radicals 40 years ago, much as Jane Fonda was considered "communist" and comparable to Muhammed Ali being banished from United States soil...for finding fault with and protesting against the American establishment war in Vietnam, a war which most of the young and intellects of your country opposed, a war in which so many innocent women and children were slaughtered without mercy...

When Barak Obama was running for president, Bill Ayers was (and I believe still is) "a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar."

In my opinion, Palin and her family kind of became a symbol of the hypocrisy of the people of the republican party in your country.


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quote:
Originally posted by Echo of Silence
I think the reason she was met with such criticism and distaste is because she threw out such blatently false comments during the presidential campaign (i.e. Barak Obama hangs around with the terrorists) and responded so poorly, in fact incompetently, to questions in interviews.

You know, I could have answered those questions better than she did when I was 10 years old. Granted, I was a lil child wonder and all but for someone who could have inherited the presidency of the United States in an instant, she was really really bad.


Obama does hang around with known terrorists. Also the media & katie couric kept throwing trick questions at her. McCain/Palin would have been the best thing for this country in this time of crisis. Instead Obama has weakend our security, put our children in debt & taken the american dream away for a long time.

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Echo of Silence
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyFIVE
Obama does hang around with known terrorists. Also the media & katie couric kept throwing trick questions at her. McCain/Palin would have been the best thing for this country in this time of crisis. Instead Obama has weakend our security, put our children in debt & taken the american dream away for a long time.


Re Obama hangs around with known terrorists, please read my previous response.

lol, let's see. The Republicans who were in power for 8 years didn't even include the cost of the war in Iran in the budget and they still were spending much much more than they had to spend. I suppose they didn't put your children in debt? Who exactly did they think would pay down that debt if not the children? The Chinese? And their lack of oversight and regulation seemed to have caused the huge recession that preceded Obama's nomination and has yet to be stopped. Even Mitt Romney said that the US government has to spend spend now to reverse the damage...

What question that Katie Couric asked do you consider a trick question? When that interview occurred, I was a 22 year old graduate student at Stanford, not even an American, not even pregnant, and I could have responded intelligently and with deliberation to each question. I listened to that whole interview and I was astounded that someone chosen to be a vice presidential candidate answered so poorly.


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lol..I just need to post the first interview again. Listen to the giant sucking sound when her memorized talking points are questioned on the first question of the first segment..She then repeats the talking points WORD FOR WORD..such a ditz...lol

part 1: economics:


part 2: foreign policy:


and another horrible trick question... "What sort of stuff do you read to stay informed?"

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idoru
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"Our governor has been a great governor. She is going to be Alaska's and is Alaska's greatest gift to our country."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07...alin/index.html

Yeah, because your fishing industry and gorgeous landscapes mean absolutely fuck all compared to her. Fucking retard.

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UWM
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyFIVE
McCain/Palin would have been the best thing for this country in this time of crisis.


Enlighten us, please.

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The17sss
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Originally posted by Echo of Silence
Bill Ayers and his wife were considered radicals 40 years ago


Yet, as of today, he still says he does not regret bombing NYC police HQ, the Pentagon, etc.... and he says he "wishes I could have done more." That is not 40 years ago, that is now. Who cares what his University teaching title is- I had a professor in college, in a criminal justice class called "Terrorism", who went on and on about how the US is the most evil country in the world and the leader in international terrorism. All kinds of bullshit gets taught in the university system. Because Ayres and Dorn avoided conviction doesn't make their views acceptable.


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lol, let's see. The Republicans who were in power for 8 years didn't even include the cost of the war in Iran in the budget and they still were spending much much more than they had to spend. I suppose they didn't put your children in debt? Who exactly did they think would pay down that debt if not the children? The Chinese? And their lack of oversight and regulation seemed to have caused the huge recession that preceded Obama's nomination and has yet to be stopped. Even Mitt Romney said that the US government has to spend spend now to reverse the damage...


First of all, Mitt isn't talking about the kind of spending that's happening now. Mitt actually understands economics and if you think he would be making the same spending decisions Obama is, you're dreaming.

If you're so outraged over the spending of the Iraq war and the budget under Bush, I wonder how you feel that Obama has QUADRUPLED that deficit in the first 6 months already, spending more than all previous presidents before him combined.... what's worse- a $500 billion deficit when Bush left office, or the $12 trillion projected deficit under Obama in the next 10 years, NOT including the Cap and Trade bill and the Trillions a new health care system will cost?

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What question that Katie Couric asked do you consider a trick question? When that interview occurred, I was a 22 year old graduate student at Stanford, not even an American, not even pregnant, and I could have responded intelligently and with deliberation to each question. I listened to that whole interview and I was astounded that someone chosen to be a vice presidential candidate answered so poorly.


How about Couric's question with inherant bias, "What do you read to stay informed?" I agree that Palin came off bad in that interview though, but my problem is more with Katie Couric in general; in her interview with Biden, when he said “When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed, he said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’” FDR wasn't President when the stock market crashed, and he didn't get on TV until a decade later... but Couric never called him out on it. Yet, she was more than happy to ask Palin 3 times for specific examples on things McCain wanted more regulation on.

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