Registered: Dec 2007
Location: The Night's Plutonian Shore
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I liked Portrait and found it quite readable. I don't really see what's hard to understand about it.
Ulysses I can see being difficult. I've only read excerpts of it (which I liked) for a course, but I picked up the book recently and will start on it soon.
I didn't find the plot hard to understand, rather that he doesn't really try to convey his points about religion and art to the reader. The main character and his problems are not something I can easily identify with and Joyce just doesn't manage to make this book accessible to me.
Interesting to see that quite a few people agree about the Beatles. I was expecting a huge shitstorm about how ignorant and clueless I am.
at naming Beethoven.
Oh, and I want to add
Andy Warhol: I know that is his fame isn't solely based on his artistic merit, but rather on the techniques he introduced and how he changed art as a whole. But I'm quite baffled about what could possibly be great about his stuff. I wouldn't hang any of this crap in my room, and I think anyone who doesn't know will be like "What kind of silly garbage is that?!" That is, until you tell them it's by Andy Warhol, when they'll suddenly change to "Oh, that's cool."
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Warsaw, Earth, 1 AU
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
So many people have recommended this to me, but I've never gotten around to it.
Why do you think it sucks?
its annoying , cause it is written from the point of view of a 19 (?) year old.
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Nov-09-2009 09:59
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Even thoughtcrime seems to flirt with the idea that language is thought (and vice versa).
Well, that is one of the original founding notions of semiotics.
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Originally posted by Meat187
I didn't find the plot hard to understand, rather that he doesn't really try to convey his points about religion and art to the reader. The main character and his problems are not something I can easily identify with and Joyce just doesn't manage to make this book accessible to me.
Joyce was never trying to make it accessible, quite the opposite.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
JM Coatzee. He won a Nobel prize for literature, but his books are good only for academics to write papers about.
I'm surprised to see him on your list - I've only read "Disgrace" but thought it was quite good, actually.
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Nov-09-2009 12:36
bananas
baby i got your money
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Mordor
Catcher in the Rye is probably my favorite book:]]
Nov-09-2009 14:22
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
It seems like people either love or hate Catcher in the Rye. I think I'll pick it up and find out which camp I fall into.
Nov-09-2009 14:46
winston
ultraviolet catastrophe
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Yggdrasill
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Andy Warhol: I know that is his fame isn't solely based on his artistic merit, but rather on the techniques he introduced and how he changed art as a whole. But I'm quite baffled about what could possibly be great about his stuff. I wouldn't hang any of this crap in my room, and I think anyone who doesn't know will be like "What kind of silly garbage is that?!" That is, until you tell them it's by Andy Warhol, when they'll suddenly change to "Oh, that's cool."
this. I agree.
Nov-09-2009 15:03
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
Apparently Catcher in the Rye and its hero, Holden Caulfield, are becoming less popular as kids identify less with outcasts and dropouts and more with people who "work within the system." Students today think the character is whiny and immature, and should just "shut up and take his Prozac":
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Apparently Catcher in the Rye and its hero, Holden Caulfield, are becoming less popular as kids identify less with outcasts and dropouts and more with people who "work within the system." Students today think the character is whiny and immature, and should just "shut up and take his Prozac":
at naming Beethoven.
