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Originally posted by malek The province is the sole entity that can enact laws on its territory about exploration, development or conservation and management of natural resources. International trade relations legislation is a just an accessory step in the whole process from mine to market.

This is going to sound real nitpicky but parlimentry supremecy dictates that municipal governments are subordinate to provincial governments, and provincial governments to federal government. And ulitmatly the federal government to the crown........but that never happens.

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Originally posted by Sentinal This is going to sound real nitpicky but parlimentry supremecy dictates that municipal governments are subordinate to provincial governments, and provincial governments to federal government. And ulitmatly the federal government to the crown........but that never happens.

Then why divide the legislative powers in two in the constitution?? why not just turn this farce of a country into a dictatorship in the hands of the bozos in Ottawack?

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Originally posted by malek Then why divide the legislative powers in two in the constitution?? why not just turn this farce of a country into a dictatorship in the hands of the bozos in Ottawack?

Good point. Because the local governments have a better understanding of the specialized need of it specific jurisdiction. The federal government could not possibly be able to understand the specific needs of a particular neighbourhood in Edmonton as opposed to a rural region in Niagara. It is a form of government micro management. Hence what I was saying about the downloading craze of the mid to late 90's. As governments tried to cut budgets they passed spending and responcibility to governments at lower levels.

Unfortunaly the City of Toronto is the 5th largest governing body in all of Canada. And they have absolutly no clue how to balance a budget and spend money efficently.

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Originally posted by malek Then why divide the legislative powers in two in the constitution?? why not just turn this farce of a country into a dictatorship in the hands of the bozos in Ottawack?

Canada is a country where the govt likes to ignore its own laws. But then again, we don't even have a ratified constitution by all provinces

Just look at all the laws a policies clearly violates BNA Act

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Originally posted by Sentinal Unfortunaly the City of Toronto is the 5th largest governing body in all of Canada. And they have absolutly no clue how to balance a budget and spend money efficently.

Because the Fathers of Confederation didn't really care about municipal govt and gave like one paragraph in BNA Act to municipal govt.

And municipal govts are handicapped by lack of revenue streams and clearly a solution must be found where cities can find other sources of income to pay for services it must provide without subsidies from fed and prov govts

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

seems harper wont be making deals with layton

one step closer to another election!

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Yohan seems harper wont be making deals with layton one step closer to another election!

In truth... after the big deal he made about the Liberals being in bed with the "socialists and the sepratists" he's better off not to make any deals and just go to the polls... a deal with either would deminish his credibility.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Yohan seems harper wont be making deals with layton one step closer to another election!

Good... harper has already made too many concessions thanks to the coalition attempt last winter. I love the spin by layton that its up to harper whether an election will be called when its clearly ignorantieff that is rattling the sabres.

I really hope we dont have an election but if we do id like to see a harper majority to put an end to this for another 4 years.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard In truth... after the big deal he made about the Liberals being in bed with the "socialists and the sepratists" he's better off not to make any deals and just go to the polls... a deal with either would deminish his credibility.

diminish it further, you mean

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Originally posted by The Ear The key determinant of the current economic situation is the freeze up of the overnight money markets and balance of payments systems, aka the credit system, or to use the common vernacular, the credit crunch. The reason we didn't see it as bad as other nations is b/c of the fiscal policy meted out by the administrations in the 1990's. The manufacturing sector fell on it's face b/c it's tied to a malformed & poorly administrated US auto sector and economy dependent on such short term loans and credit. So, in effect, the only thing Harper has done is help bail out American companies that are engaged in Canadian industries dependent upon said involvement. The only reason why the Canadian manufacturing sector is receiving said stimulus is to prevent the hemhorraging created by US leadership, and in effect cowing to those companies' failures. Therefore, the only thing Harper has done is prolong the inevitable — the eventual collapse of the Ontarian manufacturing and auto sectors, as that is exactly what will happen the day that things turn protectionist in US foreign economic policy, or the day the unions are broken & the big 3 move their operations to Mexico where things can be made for a fraction of the cost thanks to NAFTA. If anything, Whoreper & McGimpy shoud be spending stimulus dollars on policy that re-tools the manufacturing and auto sectors away from cross boarder hyper-dependency. /policy discussion for me

Just remember that the other parties formed a coalition in a bid to topple the CPC because they were not going to provide any stimulus to ailing sectors. The CPC merely propped up (in conjunction with the ontario liberals) the US autos, because it had to, or it would have been turfed out of power earlier this year.

I absolutely hated the idea of proping up those losers, but I can see why the CPC did it, to protect their own asses. If they had not provided the stimulus, the liberals and NDP would have, and it probably would have been a lot larger.

PS - pardon me if somebody already said this, some of the rants were long, and I didn't want to sift through them.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I really hope we dont have an election but if we do id like to see a harper majority to put an end to this for another 4 years.

I think the probability of any party securing a majority if the writ drops in the next couple of months is slim. Chances are we're going to end up with a house very much like what we already have. I fear that this is very bad news for Harper... his base isn't all that happy with him now and if the best he can deliver is another minority it seems probable that they will be looking for new leadership.... this may actually be Iggy's end game. I've said from before Harper's first government that he's in a hard position; if he governs for his base he alienates enough others that he is relegated to minorities, if he governs for broader appeal he alienates his base... it seems that he tried to balance this and ended up not winning enough of the electorate for a majority while also alienating a significant portion of his base; not a good position to be in.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by slingshot How is it not the governments responsibility to put in place policy measures to manage our own resources and wealth in the best way possible for the people of our country?

How does one even respond to this?

I guess my answer is: it's not the government's responsibility to manage or natural resources in the same way that it's not the government's responsibility to manage our banks, telcos, manufacturing, entertainment, and housing and retail industries. To a lot of people who live here, they already have their hands in far too many pots.

Unless you're a socialist, the burden of proof is generally on the person suggesting that the government should run that industry. Prove to us that the government can and would do a better job than private enterprise, and spare us the knee-jerk emotional arguments associated with the horrors of "profits" or moving money out of the country.

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OMG profits... such an evil evil thing.

These people who moan about profits are hypocrites. Every day when they go to work they get money in exchange for work. Thats a profit the difference is that when it's under someone else's direction we call it salary.

Why does a person make a profit instead of a profit salary? Simple. Because the person who makes the profit took a major risk whereas a job is very minimal risk. If that person hadnt taken a major risk, you wouldnt have a job. What motivates high risk? High profit. So the choice is yours.

Want to make average safe money? Get a job. Want to make high returns and profit? Start a business. But please spare me the moaning and whining about profits once you have made the choice to earn a salary. No one is stopping you from making high profits (except those who would try to stand in the way, usually those who make salaries and vote for those who hate profit)

One last thing. Usually the people who complain the most about the greediest of the rich tend to be the greediest of the poor. Think about it.