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Originally posted by culorut Actually some of those questions is what your government failed to answer from day one. You should be asking them truther. The answers to your questions are as follows and as absolutely crazy as they seem this is the "official version" which you believe in. I guess you official story believers like "satisfactory" answers to serious questions. 1. Osama and 19 hijackers 2. They hate America's freedoms 3. The CIA funded them through ISI 4. In a fucking cave 5. False flag operation, you need a very good reason to go to war and everyone knows it was a waste of time and more importantly lives.

Did I ask you for the official version? No, I asked you to make your case by answering these questions. I'm giving you a chance here so you can't whine about nobody listening to you.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I think Conspiracy Theorists did 9/11 and are merely trying to deflect the attention away from themselves. My proof? They possess so much technical knowledge about the scenario, it's obvious they are guilty.

Holy shit, I never looked at it from that perspective.

But now that I've researched the subject at hand, I think you're 100% correct.

I looked it up on youtube, and there's this one video where they blame the CTs and fuckin PROVE it with pictures glues to construction paper, so it MUST be true!

The CTs are covering it up, that's why we can't find any evidence.

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Captain Planet is gey.
Water, Fire, Earth, Wind, Heart???
These forces are supposed to combine to create Captain Planet?
Bullshit.
Those forces combine to create a soaking, boiling mudstorm on Valentine's Day.

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Originally posted by culorut Like I give a fuk what some troll thinks. Maybe you believe all these people that signed actually care what you think too?

you're so fucking thick. this has nothing to do with my opinion, and everything to do with the opinion of new york city. they're gonna throw it out for any number of legal reasons and you're all gonna look extremely foolish. especially you, because you insist on copy-pasting about things you clearly don't understand.

look for me bumping this thread after NYC council gives you the finger. cant wait!

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Originally posted by Krypton Did I ask you for the official version? No, I asked you to make your case by answering these questions. I'm giving you a chance here so you can't whine about nobody listening to you.

If you want some answers you better jump on ship and start demanding why the truth was concealed from the public. I don't have to spoon feed you, you are obviously here not because you do not agree with me but because the official story which you have so much faith in does not add up and never will until there is a new investigation.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you're so fucking thick. this has nothing to do with my opinion, and everything to do with the opinion of new york city. they're gonna throw it out for any number of legal reasons and you're all gonna look extremely foolish. especially you, because you insist on copy-pasting about things you clearly don't understand. look for me bumping this thread after NYC council gives you the finger. cant wait!

Yeah and the last time you did anything positive for this planet was when you refused to come out of your mothers hole. Please do break out your cheerleader pom poms and celebrate in your dark basement when others are trying to do something for the good of others for once.

The fact that there are 50,000-60,000 legit signatures from New Yorkers alone including the families of the victims speaks volumes. If it gets thrown out I am sure they will try again, that's life.

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Originally posted by culorut If you want some answers you better jump on ship and start demanding why the truth was concealed from the public. I don't have to spoon feed you, you are obviously here not because you do not agree with me but because the official story which you have so much faith in does not add up and never will until there is a new investigation.

Exactly. You claim to know the truth, but when questioned, you demonstrate you don't know what the fuck you'r talking about.

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Bin Laden calls Obama 'powerless' in Afghan war
By MAAMOUN YOUSSEF, Associated Press Writer – Mon Sep 14, 7:40 am ET

"The delay in your knowing those causes has cost you a lot without any result whatsoever," he said. "This position of yours, combined with some other injustices, pushed us to undertake the events of (Sept. 11)."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090914..._bin_laden_tape

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Originally posted by culorut The fact that there are 50,000-60,000 legit signatures from New Yorkers alone including the families of the victims speaks volumes.

lols. just because they didn't bother contesting the signatures doesn't mean they're legit. and what's 60,000 as a percentage of NYC population?

using a population of 8.3 million and the very upper limit of your petition, we have 0.72% of people signing the petition.

wow. less than 1 percent. no wonder you're making such a big deal about it

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I think Conspiracy Theorists did 9/11 and are merely trying to deflect the attention away from themselves. My proof? They possess so much technical knowledge about the scenario, it's obvious they are guilty.

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Originally posted by culorut 5. False flag operation, you need a very good reason to go to war and everyone knows it was a waste of time and more importantly lives.

I'm sorry... but do you really believe this? There's no way you possibly could given that the only thing holding us back from war with Iraq in 1998 was Bill Clinton.

June 1998:

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ANDREW KOHUT: Well, when the public is asked what are their preferences, what do they think should be done, and asked to choose between peace and measures of diplomacy or sanctions, they're divided. As many say, 54 percent say sanctions, 41 percent say the use of force in the latest Gallup Poll. That's about what the public said in January of '91 just before the start of the Gulf War. As long as the diplomatic and economic options are in play, the public will gravitate to that. I think the more important question is: How much public acceptance is there if force is used? PHIL PONCE: And what do the polls show there? ANDREW KOHUT: There the polls show a historic level of support--76 percent this week in the Gallup Poll said they would support the use of air attacks, and 19 percent opposed, 60 percent said they would even support the use of ground force. Now, 36 percent oppose the use of ground force. That's--that is a very sizeable minority. And you really do need a super majority to successfully sustain public support for war. But these are big numbers in comparative terms.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/midd.../iraq_2-19.html

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lols. just because they didn't bother contesting the signatures doesn't mean they're legit. and what's 60,000 as a percentage of NYC population? using a population of 8.3 million and the very upper limit of your petition, we have 0.72% of people signing the petition. wow. less than 1 percent. no wonder you're making such a big deal about it

Also something to keep in mind, according to this, about 1-3% of the population is mentally retarded. I'll just leave it at that.

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Originally posted by culorut No, this.... City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition Has 30,000 Valid Signatures to Put Referendum for 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot NEW YORK, Sept. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In a last minute decision, lawyers for the City of New York have conceded that the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders and survivors, indeed did submit over 30,000 valid signatures to put the referendum for a new 9/11 investigation before the voters of New York City this November. In an earlier letter from the City Clerk dated July 24, 2009, the City had claimed only 26,003 signatures were valid, 3,997 short of the requisite 30,000. The City's concession that over 30,000 of the 52,000 signatures submitted were in fact valid paves the way for lawyers from both sides to argue the legality of petition. Asked whether he thought NYC CAN could overcome the City's challenge to the legality of the petition, legal counsel to the petitioners, Dennis McMahon, said, "Absolutely. Although the City has an incredibly successful record of shooting down ballot initiatives, we will be arguing from a fresh perspective that reflects the unprecedented events of 9/11. We believe the courts will see how critical an issue this is, and be persuaded with our legal reasoning and point of view." A final determination on the legality of the petition will be reached in time for the referendum to be included on the November ballot should the petitioners prevail. Representatives for NYC CAN, 9/11 family member Manny Badillo and Executive Director Ted Walter, arrived at the Board of Elections on the morning of Wednesday, September 9, to assist the court-appointed referee in commencing a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures, only to learn the referee's review had been called off due to a last minute concession by the City. Mr. Badillo immediately got on the phone to inform others of the news. "The City conceded we have 30,000 valid signatures. Big victory." The City's concession comes as a result of the immense effort put forth by 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two week period from August 10 to August 25 to identify a total of 7,166 signatures that were wrongly invalidated by the NYC City Clerk and Board of Elections. On August 27, NYC CAN filed the 631-page Bill of Particulars cataloguing each of the 7,166 signatures it contended were in fact valid. NYC CAN submitted another 28,000 signatures on September 4 to guarantee the referendum will go on the ballot if they win the court case, bringing the total signatures submitted to 80,000. NYC CAN must deliver its memorandum of law in response to the City's motion for summary judgment by Monday, September 21. The City will be given an opportunity to reply before the referee's decision is made on Monday, September 28. Fast-track appeals will likely follow no matter who wins. A final decision will have to be made by September 30. If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively re-investigating the attacks. For more info: http://www.nyccan.org http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/1597096.html

Whilst I am loathe to bump this topic, I had to ask whether culorut likes these apples?

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Yesterday afternoon, Justice Edward Lehner of the State Supreme Court rubberstamped Referee Louis Crespo’s recommendation that the decision to establish a local commission to investigate the events of September 11th not be put before the voters on November 3rd. After showing interest in weighing both sides’ arguments in the hearing, the Judge’s short decision gives no indication of having considered the arguments put forth in the Petitioners’ memorandum of law, nor any acknowledgement of the need for a new investigation, which the City of New York callously dismissed as “irrelevant”.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/21583

so, how do the apples taste mate?

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