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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox You know about as much about me as I know about your mother. And under that rationale I can call your mom a whore and be as right about her as you are about me. Yeh I made a thread about how to make a proper bassline. Thats what this forum is for you clown. And yes AGAIN I made a thread cause I couldn't install FL, because AGAIN dipshit, thats what this forum is for. ASKING QUESTIONS. The only question you won't see me asking, is why losers like you come into constructive threads like these to shit negativity everywhere. When a group of people walks into a party and some time passes there is always one person who can not have fun or be positive no matter how hard they try. And you will always hear something negative come out of their mouth like "this pary sucks" or "this is boring" when in FACT, the truth is, they suck, and THEY are boring. The same way you came into this thread saying my advice sucks because in reality, YOU SUCK. Because if I went into one of your threads, and didn't like you, I wouldn't feel tempted to tell you your advice sucked unless I FIRST felt inferior to you in someway. Its that feeling of inferiority you felt when you read my thread, that made you feel THE NEED TO PROVE SOMETHING to me in the first place. You came into my thread to tell me you would never take my advice. But you did it because I somehow threaten you, and we've never spoke before. So that makes you 2 things. 1) a pussy 2) very insecure Now please, go eat a dick and have a nice day.

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Originally posted by davedresden it's a good thing your tits have no bearing on the outcome of my career

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The word "addition" is NOT a synonym of the word "tension"!

This is one mistake I make at least everyday.
Trance music follows an energetic flow of tension and release.

And a lot times when I'm trying to build an intro I will ADD new patterns to ADD tension because its the first thing my intuition always tells me to do.
Dropping patterns OUT of a mix to build tension is counterintuitive.

But it works equally and just as well as dropping patterns in. I also notice, it helps to break the boring traditional "add hat, add clap, add bass" concept of trance. And imo adds a nice competetive edge to a track.

But the idea is if you have a simple hat groove bringing the kick for the first 9 bars, instead of dropping a mid hat, or ADDING MORE SOUND, try changing the original hat pattern. Or throw the hat through some fxs, or even clone the hat and have one pan left as the other pans right and have them loop back and forth.

If you need to exercise the ability to do this, simply start REVERSING the way you do intros.
Start a track off with all the elements you would normally add in steps, and for each pattern change, drop out an element and change a pattern thats still playing so it builds tension. See if you can continue adding tension by actually reducing the sum total of notes played per bar.

If you start to incorporate this idea in your everyday studio time, you will begin noticing that your tracks just sound more original, because you're forcing yourself to think outside of tradition.

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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

Uniformity always trumps complexity:

This is a very basic tip, but another one I often find myself straying from in practice.

I was working on a break one day and was trying to figure out how to drop in the main beat. The main beat was gonna start with a nice piano melody.
So I go searching through my vengeance fx reverse sweeps to find the coolest most elaborate reverse sweep I could find. I put the sample in and think "wow, as cool as the fx sounds, I just don't understand why it doesn't fit.."

So I take the key the piano melody is based on, and play one note on that key low octave with a long release and record it. I reverse the piano note and use THAT to bring in the piano melody. It instantly sounded 1000 times better because rather then focusing on some complex elaborate fx, I made one from a sound that was already in the track, thus making the track more uniform all together.
A great way to keep a track uniform is to make your own fx with sounds already in the track. And because you're making them you can keep them in the key the track is in, its such a simple thing that really helps keep a tracks identity strong.

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Sequencers: FL Studio 9XXL & Reason 3.
Main Synth Bass GTs - Pro-53, V-Station, Sytrus, Subtractor, Trilian, Blue, Sylenth & Z3ta.
Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

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Originally posted by RichieV what are the benefits ? It doesn't seem obvious to me

It just keeps you fresh and open minded with the track. I always hear things better when i'm working simultaneously on tracks. You also don't get bored and don't stress when you hit a rough spot in one of the tracks. It's kind of like a breath of fresh air.