Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
People who speak English as a second/third/fourth language have either been formerly taught it in a classroom or learned it through subtitled TV. Therefore they usually have a good grasp of spelling and syntax.
People who speak English natively learned it through speaking while growing up, and thus spelling and grammar is something that came much later. They also have regional dialects and so on.
Granted, this doesn't explain why the English on TA are lagging so far behind the Americans.
To be honest that applies for any language - and I never sucked that hard in Finnish either.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
People who speak English as a second/third/fourth language have either been formerly taught it in a classroom or learned it through subtitled TV. Therefore they usually have a good grasp of spelling and syntax.
People who speak English natively learned it through speaking while growing up, and thus spelling and grammar is something that came much later. They also have regional dialects and so on.
Granted, this doesn't explain why the English on TA are lagging so far behind the Americans.
True, but if you have any type of schooling below the university level, you're usually taught enough to be at least proficient.
Maybe people are just lazy? Even then, you're typing, it's honestly not hard.
Nov-05-2009 20:47
Clovis
techno jungle shit
Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
People who speak English as a second/third/fourth language have either been formerly taught it in a classroom or learned it through subtitled TV. Therefore they usually have a good grasp of spelling and syntax.
People who speak English natively learned it through speaking while growing up, and thus spelling and grammar is something that came much later. They also have regional dialects and so on.
Yeah but don't you guys have english class in school? Write papers, essays, read books?
Even the basic US high school english classes require some level of writing and reading for several years.
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Granted, this doesn't explain why the English on TA are lagging so far behind the Americans.
It seems like a lot of English type and write phonetically on the internet.
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Originally posted by ********
Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.
Nov-05-2009 20:48
woscar
Starstuff
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
Phonetics or not, spelling 'no' instead of 'know' is just retarded.
This is just some ad hoc social theorising bullshit from the top of my head, but a lot of people who like dance music in the UK are definitely working class. They probably don't hold down jobs that requires literacy skills and they probably didn't get good educations at good schools.
Perhaps the demographic for electronic music in other countries is more middle-class, because it's more of a niche, counter-culture thing, where as in the UK it's more popular grass-roots culture.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This is just some ad hoc social theorising bullshit from the top of my head, but a lot of people who like dance music in the UK are definitely working class. They probably don't hold down jobs that requires literacy skills and they probably didn't get good educations at good schools.
Perhaps the demographic for electronic music in other countries is more middle-class, because it's more of a niche, counter-culture thing, where as in the UK it's more popular grass-roots culture.
According to his profile he is in IT.
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Originally posted by ********
Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.
Nov-05-2009 21:02
woscar
Starstuff
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
I think it's mostly laziness rather than education/social level. I know A LOT of people that are graduated lawyers/doctors/engineers from the best and most expensive schools in the country and still can't write a sentence to save their lives. In their native language. Don't even get me started on how they write in English, lol.
Originally posted by Demoted
I hate it when djs try to go out and change the world since more often than not they sound like complete toolbags. This being no exception.
He's not trying to change the world. He's trying to revive nights worth actually going to.
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think J00F's problem is he seems to be unwilling to play smaller clubs and crowds, where there would be more control over things. By insisting on playing big room venues he's being lumped in with big room trance jocks who can't warm up for shit.
In his blog entry that Existo copy-pasta'd the other day, he was banging on about the lack of superclubs catering for specialist crowds. That's your problem right there, J00Fy. Take a pay cut and play smaller venues and you'll get specialist crowds. Play bigger clubs and you get the lowest common denominator, because it's where the profit is.
Psy-trance doesn't work in small clubs, end of story. Actually, it doesn't really work in clubs at all. I didn't believe it until I experienced it myself, but outdoors is where this kind of music really comes alive.
Besides, I've seen him play smaller gigs. He played a side-stage at a festival here a few years ago which only had a capacity of 250-300.