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stevö
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quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
That's the thing though... race is NOT 'just' a social thing... it is very much a biological thing, even though this may sound controversial in today's PC society... A lot of people underestimate the role biology plays in our lives. Recent studies have all overturned the social-science ideals that were in vogue in the 70s and 80s, and now emphasize the genes, rather than the environment, in shaping our lives.



There's one possibility you haven't considered, it's that people act that way because they are genetically predisposed to doing so. I know, sounds so extremely simple you would never have thought of it.


today's stance is that we understand there are differences between races, we just have matured and evolved to know the right thing to do is celebrate our differences, not pretend they dont exist.

i forgot the term but there is a whole field of research and study of races, things like average width of the nose, hormone levels, etc. back in the late 60's, once we realized how stupid and pointless the subject is, its been near impossible to get grants for more research in this field. the science is considered unethical and meaningless.

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If we are speaking genetic motive, I believe the social imperative comes first and foremost. I said race was an inherently social thing, not a solely social thing - I think this lends itself to biology being the true director of cultural behaviour, though if we are to consider this, we must accomodate for the fact that Mother Nature is just a greedy bitch who wants all of us to get our rocks off in the most expedient manner possible. What better way to do this than to gather up everyone in a dark room and have them sweating together to some sub-Freudian throbbing? People don't typically have sex in public bathrooms, but don't seem to have any qualms doing so in a club - why is this?


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Originally posted by HardTranceProd
My belief, supported by some research and personal life experience, is that music tastes are genetically encoded along racial/ethnic lines. Not specific genres, of course, but big picture-wise.

It's no coincidence that Lady GaGa writes disco music that harkens back to her Euro roots, or that Pitbull's music is steeped in Caribbean beats. Music preferences, and music traditions, could be as genetic and biological as skin color. People tend to like music that is genetically close to them.

A lot of people who live on the East Coast of the US, in cities like Boston, NYC, and Philly, are descendants of Eastern-European (non-Anglo) immigrants, from countries like Poland, Italy, Russia, etc. It's no surprise, then, that these people have some appreciation for Euro-style sounds and anything close to it, such as techno or techno-influenced pop, even if they were born in this country.

The rest of the US' white population is Anglo-Saxon. It has a totally different musical tradition (and hence genes, perhaps?). People with Anglo or Scandinavian genes have little in common with the continental-Euro genes discussed above, and have their own sound. Taylor Swift, country and folk music, as well as Rock, even the Beatles and the Stones, are all examples of a slightly different musical tradition of people carrying non-continental-Euro genes.

Africans, of course, have their own musical tastes, as do Latinos.


This is more cultural than genetic though.


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I like Trance, Eurodance, classical music, Humppa and some cheesy vocal House. Tell me how I dress.






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quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
A lot of people who live on the East Coast of the US, in cities like Boston, NYC, and Philly, are descendants of Eastern-European (non-Anglo) immigrants, from countries like Poland, Italy, Russia, etc. It's no surprise, then, that these people have some appreciation for Euro-style sounds and anything close to it, such as techno or techno-influenced pop, even if they were born in this country.


except that techno was originally black, american music.


genetics has little to do with culture, and only really in indirect ways (eg skin color -> racism -> economic status - > culture)



PS d-miurge, i picked up 'la distinction' - looks like a really good read ahead of me, thank you for the tip.

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Not really, no. More like light shirt, jeans and brown leather shoes.
Again a correlation might be true for some people but I just think people who truely have a taste of their own won't really fit into any category.


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quote:
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Not really, no. More like light shirt, jeans and brown leather shoes.
Again a correlation might be true for some people but I just think people who truely have a taste of their own won't really fit into any category.


The crux of this being that most people do not have a 'taste of their own'?


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Not really, no. More like light shirt, jeans and brown leather shoes.
Again a correlation might be true for some people but I just think people who truely have a taste of their own won't really fit into any category.



ah not too far off... still probably neat and appropriate

i'll tell you what you wont find is someone who listens to trance and wears jeans 6 sizes too big falling off his ass with a stocking on his head.


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ah not too far off... still probably neat and appropriate

i'll tell you what you wont find is someone who listens to trance and wears jeans 6 sizes too big falling off his ass with a stocking on his head.


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except that techno was originally black, american music.



not at all... House may have black origins, but Techno came from Euro-NRG in Germany.


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quote:
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ah not too far off... still probably neat and appropriate

i'll tell you what you wont find is someone who listens to trance and wears jeans 6 sizes too big falling off his ass with a stocking on his head.


Ever been out of Jersey?


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not at all... House may have black origins, but Techno came from Euro-NRG in Germany.


no.


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