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Originally posted by echosystm Nor do you need a Virus TI. Your post makes no sense.

Thank you for trying to tell me what *I "need".

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Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

why would he need to wait another week, another week of torture, another week without sleep? he knows everything he needs to know, people cant really give any more advice than already donne. im guessing that ull get the nord too in time though haha. because the nord rack 2x is the most sexy synth of all time and ull be dreaming of it until the day u get it (ill promise ull get it) eventhough i learned that i cant work with hardware AT ALL, i still want to have the 2x (i had the 3) just because its the perfect hardware-synth to me. oh gosh i need to stop talk about it.

Oh and I dont need a better sound card I can just use the one on the virus no?

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Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

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Originally posted by palm why would he need to wait another week, another week of torture, another week without sleep? he knows everything he needs to know, people cant really give any more advice than already donne. im guessing that ull get the nord too in time though haha. because the nord rack 2x is the most sexy synth of all time and ull be dreaming of it until the day u get it (ill promise ull get it) eventhough i learned that i cant work with hardware AT ALL, i still want to have the 2x (i had the 3) just because its the perfect hardware-synth to me. oh gosh i need to stop talk about it.

Whats your biggest "urk" about hardware?

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Main Synth Lead/Pad GTs - Z3ta, Sytrus, Sylenth, Vangard, Albino & Nexus.
Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Honestly I've NEVER understood in my life how ANYONE "knows" what they want. Because I HAVE been listening to both the Nord and Virus and if you want me to be honest I want them both. Its extremely difficult to say "I want this one more because of blah blah". They both sound great imo so its hard to say. And when I really look at a guy like Alanzo, someone who has prob owned every hardware synth known to man, and I think about how awfully confused he must be (guy gets a new synth every month lol) then I view the confusion I'm experiencing as completely normal. And in that sense, maybe I will sell it on ebay in another 6 months, but it will still be apart of that life long learning process to discover what sound I'm after and what suits me best. And in that respect I think I made a smart decision. =]

just rippin on you man - hope u enjoy your new toy

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox If you take a synth like FM-8 or Massive, I know where to start, and I get the basics, but the endless modulating capabilies are where I label myself "newbie". I have no problems tweaking waveforms, envelopes, lfos and other basic programming, but when it comes to the more intricate modulating/routing capabilites I usually steer away from getting that deep into a preset.

I think if you just read through the manual carefully you will be a lot less intimidated. That's how I finally learned to do FM synthesis.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox For me I just want a different level of sound, I mean listen to this how can you not love that sound? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUif508d-gM

Ehhhh...

I am skeptical because the demo uses popular melodies which cloud your judgment.

If you took a Virus patch and in one sample you just repeated the A note over again and again, then on another patch played a popular melody, and then told people to compare two different synthesizers(when in reality it's the same synth) I bet you most people would think there is a difference.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Ehhhh... I am skeptical because the demo uses popular melodies which cloud your judgment. If you took a Virus patch and in one sample you just repeated the A note over again and again, then on another patch played a popular melody, and then told people to compare two different synthesizers(when in reality it's the same synth) I bet you most people would think there is a difference.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Ehhhh... I am skeptical because the demo uses popular melodies which cloud your judgment. If you took a Virus patch and in one sample you just repeated the A note over again and again, then on another patch played a popular melody, and then told people to compare two different synthesizers(when in reality it's the same synth) I bet you most people would think there is a difference.

Its funny because I was just reading the Dance Music Manual the other day, and it said never to sample a synth by pressing the same key over and over.
So I guess one would gather the total emotional impact of a melody is 50% the melody, and 50% the sound used. And in your example it would still support the idea that not having a melody, would take away enough emotional impact to not make someone care what sound was used, but I'm still not sure about not being able to identify a difference.

I still do believe sound source itself is half the emotional impact of a melody, so in real basic miminal arrangments maybe sounds matter less, but in something with long drawn out epic progressions, I believe an exceptional sound source is just gonna add that much more impact.

So yeh its very subjective to say the least.

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Main FXs GTs - Waves Plugins, Soundtoys, Volcano, FL Native FX.
Hardware - Truths, Echo Audiofire, Virus Snow, & Novation Xio Midi-Synth.

Sweet some tard just bought my Snow from me on ebay ...oh wait.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox For me I just want a different level of sound, I mean listen to this how can you not love that sound? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUif508d-gM If I can do anything close on the snow I'd be perfectly happy. I've heard a ton with the snow and they all sound great, but alan did a great job with that one virus demo.

you can easily make all those sounds with software. In fact software synths tend to be a little more innovative and generally more interesting as almost every hardware synth is just a subtractive synth. The problem is your skill level , not your tools. You will find more sound designers using reaktor than a virus synth.