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Joss Weatherby
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Registered: May 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I thoroughly disagree with you there, Ian. You can only talk about your life, and your life only: if DA thought suicide was a viable option, and he did in fact choose to kill himself, we should respect his choice. You did not live his life in order to know what it was like and why he decided to end it.


I disagree, sudden, selfish suicide will do nothing but hurt others. Lifes problems usually have solutions. He took the cowards way out and we are now paying for it with our grief.

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Yohan
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out of respect for raul, let's keep the suicide debate for another day


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I disagree, sudden, selfish suicide will do nothing but hurt others.

Yeah, because hurting other is certainly more important than ending your very own existence.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Lifes problems usually have solutions. He took the cowards way out and we are now paying for it with our grief.

And he paid with his life. I think that kinds of outweigh the grief of everyone concerned, don't you think?


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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I thoroughly disagree with you there, Ian. You can only talk about your life, and your life only: if DA thought suicide was a viable option, and he did in fact choose to kill himself, we should respect his choice. You did not live his life in order to know what it was like and why he decided to end it.


honestly, i've got to the point where i wanted to, many times, but it's the thought of the aftermath that stopped it from happening. This is exactly what is happening now, people are arguing, people are upset, and as a person who tries to have a good heart, I can't put the people who mean that to me and who I mean something to into those scenarios. I respect your thoughts and input dude, but just have to disagree through my own experience & what people I know think about the subject in general. The thing is, it has been people here who have helped and shaped me into who I am, and to see it all like this over an issue like this just upsets me.

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You can't say that nou. You don't know what its like to be in so much pain you would rather be dead. I do, so I understand completely.


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Lira
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The address in the link posted is his address, Lira.

I see

Oh, well, RIP then.


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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

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Originally posted by jennypie
Yeah I used to think A LOT differently about suicide. But Lira is right, we have to respect his choice.


Agreed. I can respect it, if i can't agree with it personally.

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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Yeah, because hurting other is certainly more important than ending your very own existence.

And he paid with his life. I think that kinds of outweigh the grief of everyone concerned, don't you think?



That depends on your definition of the afterlife.

If you believe that existence just ceases then suicide has no bearing on you as soon as you commit it. You cease to be.

You do leave behind people though. There is no DA anymore, just his shattered friends.

This isn't the place for a theological or psychological debate though Lira. Lets save this for another time.

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This time of year was so hard for him.


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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by Zild
You can't say that nou. You don't know what its like to be in so much pain you would rather be dead. I do, so I understand completely.


I think everyone has been there at one point or another Zild. Don't go questioning people you know nothing about.

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Zild
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Why don't we celebrate his life instead of tearing at each other? He was a great man with a huge heart.


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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

quote:
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Why don't we celebrate his life instead of tearing at each other? He was a great man with a huge heart.


the one thing we had in common, apart from taking the piss out of arturo, was old school wwf. The hitman rejoined it this last day or so, and he would've loved that a lot, not as much as vivid/eric would, but a lot.

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