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Originally posted by Lyft 1) pretty much ALL music is over-compressed these days. someone once told me when i first started producing "if you can't make it better, make it louder," and it's true. if your track isn't as good as the one before it, but is louder, people at clubs/events will get a false perception of more energy in the track and will be more likely to keep dancing. the unfortunate thing is, generally only people who produce music have any idea that the music they're listening to is virtually dynamic free. the more mainstream client, who, lets be honest, makes up the greater portion of any market, doesn't know or care. 2) any one who craps on about how "music these days is shit" is a moron. whoop-de-fucking-doo if something was more experimental in the mid 90s? seriously, who gives a shit? most of the time experimental tracks sound shit anyway. look at the top 50 trance tunes of 2009 on beatport, and you'll find a plenty of variety. musically speaking, these days trance is fucking sweet!

We're talking about the production, not the composition. Learn what the difference is.
I do agree with you on the "waaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah everything back in the day was better" bullshit though. Guess what? It's not new and it's not exclusive to EDM. Get used to the elitist and hipster fags in any genre.

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Music is a reflection of our minds. As if we (our music) were shown naked in front of thousands. Well that's how it should be in a perfect world.

The more eye-catching we look, the more people will love the music. That's nowadays confusion. If the rockstar dj was in a rolling-chair just like many other talented dj's, I'm not sure he'd be a superstar!

It took me about 3 years to change my perception of the music world as it is today. 3 years is like a century in this world. But I can tell you one thing, now time has come to stop scratching the surface. The transition should be over, for everyone.

On a personal note, I admit that I don't like 50% of what I've released. I feel personally responsible of this huge mess we're into, by releasing too much music that didn't reflect my personal taste. It made me feel horrible.

The last 2 months I discovered so much good music thanks to friends around, I couldn't believe my eyes and obviously my ears. That music had been there like forever, but it was hidden under piles of crap.

Unfortunately, it looks like that's the only way forward today. As an artist, you really have to throw something at people's faces and shout louder than the hot-looking noob doing fastfood music. It's crude but that's today's reality.

So the idea of a proper education for the next generation came naturally. That's how I became a part-time teacher, which opened my eyes.

Don't blame people for liking what they hear right now, they don't know any better. And as an artist, if you think you don't get the success or the credit you deserve, only blame yourself, that is because you haven't been able to bring enough people together around it.

Music is there to bring people together.

Wake up guys, we've never been that close to a new GOLDEN age in music.

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Just out of curosity what is the new music your listening to Lolo.

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well, stuff I like right now is a little bit far away from trance or even dance but it's still electronic music. There's solar fields, trifonic, telefon tel aviv, jon hopkins, and many others.

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In the 1950's people harked back to the music and film of the 30's

In the 60's people harked back to the rocknroll of the 50's

In the 90's I recall many radio staion phone ins where people said music was all bad and we needed to get back to the 70's


In 25 millions years time people will hark back not to the tracne of 1995, but to the trance 15 years prior to thier moan

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Originally posted by Lolo well, stuff I like right now is a little bit far away from trance or even dance but it's still electronic music. There's solar fields, trifonic, telefon tel aviv, jon hopkins, and many others.

so, stuff like chill out and ambient? Yeah, I'm into that too these days. Di.fm chillout or space music channels are just about all I listen to.

I like your introspective, but I think you're too harsh - if following your logic "music brings ppl together", I feel your music does it rather well. I, as well as many others enjoy it immensely.

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Originally posted by Lyft musically speaking, these days trance is fucking sweet!

lol noob

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Originally posted by floyd741 lol noob

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Originally posted by aNYthing so, stuff like chill out and ambient? Yeah, I'm into that too these days. Di.fm chillout or space music channels are just about all I listen to. I like your introspective, but I think you're too harsh - if following your logic "music brings ppl together", I feel your music does it rather well. I, as well as many others enjoy it immensely.

Agreed, you've made great music Lolo.

Although, sometimes I wish you'd WAKE THE FVCK UP...
























































































































And put a BANGIn' DONK ON iT!

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Originally posted by Fledz We're talking about the production, not the composition. Learn what the difference is. I do agree with you on the "waaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah everything back in the day was better" bullshit though. Guess what? It's not new and it's not exclusive to EDM. Get used to the elitist and hipster fags in any genre.

i am well aware of the difference, and even though music may be grossly overcompressed these days, other elements of their engineering is still profoundly better then it was 15 years ago, or even 5 years ago.
individual sounds nowdays are (generally) clearer, sit in their own space better, are better crafted, and more textured then they were previously.

and why should people get used to others who are clearly being destructive? why accept the negative because you don't think you can do anything about it? it is because no-one thinks they can do anything about it that everyone does nothing about it.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
- Edmund Burke

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ so how does that work out then, genius?

did i say anything about the engineering or mastering? no. i commented on the musical content, or the actual writing of it.

the way i see it, creating music like this is done in 3 stages:
writing - where the melodies, counter melodies, and harmonies are created.
production - where the arrangement and instrumentation for the melodic content is implemented.
engineering - the application of effects and dynamics processors to allow each sound to sit in it's own space so that the whole piece of music sounds as asthetically pleasing as possible.

next time try to look at more then just the surface of things in front of you. that way you'll be less likely to miss the point.

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Originally posted by floyd741 lol noob

thank you for that insightful piece of commentary, however did you come up with it? one's imagination can barely fathom the years of tuition under a master scholar, followed by decades of meditation and introspective investigation, required to provide us with such a sublime and profound statement as that which you have delivered.

praise be to you, my life is now complete

Last edited by Lyft on Jan-08-2010 at 20:05

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Originally posted by Lyft look at the top 50 trance tunes of 2009 on beatport, and you'll find a plenty of variety.

i love when people prove themself not worth listening to.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler In the 1950's people harked back to the music and film of the 30's In the 60's people harked back to the rocknroll of the 50's In the 90's I recall many radio staion phone ins where people said music was all bad and we needed to get back to the 70's In 25 millions years time people will hark back not to the tracne of 1995, but to the trance 15 years prior to thier moan

pff no one complained in the 90s, nor the late 60s and early 70s. u dont know shit.