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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
That’s a horrible analogy. There’s a qualitative, definitive and easily identified “wrong” in the beating of the woman. Just because someone thinks something is racist doesn’t automatically make it so, ESPECIALLY when they’re applying their fallacious reasoning and cultural specificity across another culture they know nothing about. If some idiot yank misunderstands some media not intended for their consumption, stiff fucking shit. It doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to kowtow to the American experience.

I'm not saying that advert is analogous to smacking a woman up, sorry for not making my intentions clear. What I mean is that you can't step out of your culture, so to speak, when you see facts about other peoples, so you can't help it. Not being able to get them is not really much different from their inability to understand you.

And having another advert would really straighten things out. It's a shame there isn't one


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Really that's just bringing the discussion into the issue of ethics. Does every culture have the same, universal ethics? Who decides what's wrong for everybody? Most people believe in the basic shit: don't kill, don't steal, etc, but when you get into issues of sexism and racism and stuff the lines blur strongly when you go into different cultures.

Or something. I'm on lot's of xanax right now so woo!


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Lira
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Who decides what's wrong for everybody?

The Americans, isn't that obvious?


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Lews
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White Christian Republican Americans, at that.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
What I mean is that you can't step out of your culture, so to speak, when you see facts about other peoples, so you can't help it.


While you might not be able to “step out” of your culture, that’s not quite the same thing as assuming everyone in the entire world is the same as you and mis-judging contexts due to those assumptions. this issue is not an issue of race, but wilful American ignorance.

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Not being able to get them is not really much different from their inability to understand you.


The difference is that I DO get them, because you know, I take an interest in things outside my own back yard. I know there’s an American stereotype involving nignogs and fried chicken. The point is that idiot yanks don’t seem to understand that other places do not have the same issues/contexts, yet proceed to judge those places anyway.

If this were another country, perhaps I would be more forgiving. But the fact that yanks can’t see/understand anything beyond their own nose is a well established American stereotype, and since they seem determined to perpetuate that stereotype I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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And having another advert would really straighten things out. It's a shame there isn't one


Why? We don’t give two shits about stupid Americans and whether they’re offended. It isn’t our job to educate them about other parts of the world (mission impossible anyway). Fuck em.

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oh man nignogs...that is awesome

that is so great i'm going to name my first kid nignog.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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oh man nignogs...that is awesome

that is so great i'm going to name my first kid nignog.


Please note that this racial slur is applicable to any non-white you care to mention

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If some idiot yank misunderstands some media not intended for their consumption, stiff fucking shit. It doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to kowtow to the American experience.


All that matters is we saved your arses in ww2. Damned japs.


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All we know is you were late for both world wars.

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WittyHandle
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Originally posted by Renzo
I heard on the radio today that a representative from KFC said the commercial was never meant for the States - that it leaked.


Leaked? You mean some deviant went outside the box and thought to put it on Youtube?

Kids today think of the craziest things.

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All we know is you were late for both world wars.


truth

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