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Originally posted by R!CH what would be the point of restating a 2300 year old idea that still resonates so strong today? i've already put in my commentary regarding how we got from a nation of freethinkers to a nation of superstitious morons. the rest has already been said. beyond that list of thoughts from history's smartest people, there is no other argument to be had.

My point is that the discussion is far more interesting with you, not with "history's smartest people". If anything, it looks like you're asking for back up when it's unnecessary. (and, worse yet, you had someone else do the research for you)

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no i just really like those quotes and the people who said them, and i think anyone whose struggling with the idea of letting their religion go could really use them. it's not necessarily a post for you. the good news is i did do the research myself. i collected all of those quotes and put them on a web page where they've been for 10 years now. i'd hate to inconvenience you with more random people, but here: http://www.intellexual.net/quotes.html

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Originally posted by R!CH no i just really like those quotes and the people who said them, and i think anyone whose struggling with the idea of letting their religion go could really use them. it's not necessarily a post for you.

I imagined so, since I'm not religious myself

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Originally posted by R!CH the good news is i did do the research myself. i collected all of those quotes and put them on a web page where they've been for 10 years now. i'd hate to inconvenience you with more random people, but here: http://www.intellexual.net/quotes.html

That's impressive, and I congratulate you for your work. But, did you read all those quotes from their original sources, or did you just stumble upon them? If you did read, it's be nice of you if you mentioned the source as well. I mean, they're just there, as a collage in that page (or in this thread). For example:

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The wretchedness of religion is at once an expression and a protest against real wretchedness. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the feeling of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of unspiritual conditions. It is the opium of the people

Yes, Karl Marx did say that. But why? This quote is awfully misinterpreted because people rarely get to read the Theses On Feuerbach thoroughly (and it's not that long). Yet, everyone knows "Religion is the opium of the people", and come up with the shallowest interpretations of why that is.

This is what I mean to say: posting quotes by remarkable people is no more different than collecting excerpts from the bible and pasting them as if they proved anything. They're just boring. Are you really saying that you can't build upon the ideas others have shared with you? I'm sure you can!

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i could, but that would take a lot of time, look really wall-of-texty, and no one would want to read it

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"religion is the opium of the people" is significantly shorter than the quotes posted however. 6-8 lines should be fine for context.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard there are idiots drawn to religion much as there are idiots drawn to any other group social interaction; however, there are also a great many incredibly bright and mentally stable people who are highly religious.

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Originally posted by R!CH i could, but that would take a lot of time, look really wall-of-texty, and no one would want to read it

That's your mistake. Renegade (an Aussie TA) used to be the master of wall-of-texts, and because of their quality, we'd read it. I used to post very long posts myself (I still do), and people read.

The more interesting the content, the longer it can be

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Originally posted by Krypton Don't the right wingers understand Jesus was as leftist on one gets?

Oh, I completely forgot:

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Originally posted by Krypton Don't the right wingers understand Jesus was as leftist on one gets?

No, theyre all idiots.

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Heres a perfectly positive thing to say as a popular religious figure:



Anyone else tired of these religious assholes spewing such bullshit?

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