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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
THIS.

Every thread you start would be so much simpler if you just thought it out first before hitting enter. I can honestly say that is the case for 80% of your questions.


If you look carefully. I spent about an hour just speculating at different things he may have done to the kick, then listed them all out to help other people generate ideas. So I'm not really getting the "think it out" comment.

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Don't get me wrong I think it;s commendable that you ask, and sometimes some good discussion comes of it, but so much is just uneccesary if you think about what you already know and then combine that with common sense.


Honestly this is prob one of the smartest things I can hear. The real problem is I look up to a lot of you people entirely too much, and I think some of you have some secret knowledge that I don't, and that I need to pry it out of you all on a daily basis.

But realistically speaking your right. If I just took what I already knew, and combined it with that common sense, I most likely would NOT need to make these threads at all. So you got that 100%. For now on, I'll stick to making threads that are more thought provoking and entertaining then actually trying to learn anything. I'm not being sarcastic but you're right. 85% of this forum most likely comes here for mere entertainment, and not to discuss anything really important (god forbid its another boring kick thread). As much as I'm on here I should have known that by now.

For now on I'll just post pics of people smacking their foreheads while I embark on useless tirades insulting random strangers. Seems to be what is most accepted here.


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Old Post Jan-27-2010 06:52  South Africa
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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox


Your original post might have not mentioned your monitors, but in the end, despite all the good advice you were given about how to make such a kick, you wound up basically saying "Ah well, I don't stand a chance until I have better monitors, so I may as well just put prouction on hold until then because I won't be able to make anything worthwhile". I'm merely pointing out that this is bullshit.

Also, you might have avoided coming across as so utterly dumb if you phrased your questions more like "How do you make a good kick?" and then left it a more open ended question rather than saying "Why is THIS kick from my friend so good when mine are so shoddy Waaaaaaa!". That way, others might have gotten something out of the thread, rather than it all just being about robby and his production issues.

In regards to your last post; most people come here to learn things they don't already know. Most of the questions you ask can't be answered online, they require pure practice. There is no secret knowledge, just experience.

Anyway, I've sunk enough time into telling how not to be a dickhead, unsubscribing.


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Old Post Jan-27-2010 07:19  Australia
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DJ Robby Rox
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Your original post might have not mentioned your monitors, but in the end, despite all the good advice you were given about how to make such a kick, you wound up basically saying "Ah well, I don't stand a chance until I have better monitors, so I may as well just put prouction on hold until then because I won't be able to make anything worthwhile". I'm merely pointing out that this is bullshit.


You're merely pointing out that you seem to have had a conversation with yourself, then got mad at me over it. I had stated that I had tried raising and lowering the gain of the kick, and still couldn't get it to translate well. My frustration was based on my efforts more then my monitors. You seem to have selective hearing.

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Also, you might have avoided coming across as so utterly dumb if you phrased your questions more like "How do you make a good kick?" and then left it a more open ended question rather than saying "Why is THIS kick from my friend so good when mine are so shoddy Waaaaaaa!". That way, others might have gotten something out of the thread, rather than it all just being about robby and his production issues.


Oh my effn god no you did not just actually say that.
Ok, so rather then be specific, and submit and actual EXAMPLE of the sound I WANT TO ACHIEVE, it would be better to just randomly have said "how do I make a good kick", possibly one of the vaguest questions I could have asked. When realistically tou know and I know if I DID say that 20 people would have came in saying "if you posted a sample of what sound you're after we could help you better". You might have avoided coming across so "utterly dumb" if you weren't so preoccupied with making ME look dumb.

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In regards to your last post; most people come here to learn things they don't already know. Most of the questions you ask can't be answered online, they require pure practice. There is no secret knowledge, just experience.

Anyway, I've sunk enough time into telling how not to be a dickhead, unsubscribing.


You are right I agree, still doesn't mean people can't try.


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hexadecimal
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago, IL

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J [list=1]
[*]Good Computer.

Man... someone needs to go back in time and tell everyone who made electronic music without a computer that they were doing it wrong. Bunch of stupids with they're mixor boxas or wutevr. wut their were thinking!

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by hexadecimal
Man... someone needs to go back in time and tell everyone who made electronic music without a computer that they were doing it wrong. Bunch of stupids with they're mixor boxas or wutevr. wut their were thinking!


.....but it was far more difficult, relied on tons of expensive outboard and a shitload of time as well as expertise, and even then there were a ton of problems.

You're either being a purist for the sake of it or simply stupid if you really try to make electronic music without a computer, when so much technology has gone in to amking them perform that so well. I'm not saying it can't be done by any means, just that for our purposes, it's the most sensible choice.

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Beatflux
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Planet Alf

Robbie should watch these two videos.

http://www.realtraps.com/video_hearing.htm

http://www.realtraps.com/video_demo.htm

The first one is an example of treatment vs no treatment. The second one is correcting bass frequencies with just bass traps.


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Nightshift
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Location: Sacramento, California

i was starting to question if this robby thread was gonna make at least 10 pages

now i think its gonna make it


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quote:
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Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Fuxzz
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Sweden

Very interesting Videos. I could not imagine it made that much difference only with basstraps.

About the whole Robby thing I can't really see the problem with a question like this. I mean its a forum and I think its nice to have something to read. There are many people on different kind of levels hanging here, and I understand if some of the newb questions sounds dumb to the more experienced people. But lets not forget that everyone have to start somewhere.

From this thread I have learned that treatment are far more important than I thought before. And from many other threads that even I think is newbish I often learn something new at the end.

If Robbys questions annoys you, don't read his threads. If his post entertain you in some whay at all, wich seems to be the case in this thread, then keep on reading.

I think Robby will contribute a whole lot to this forum when he gets good enough to answer other peoples questions. Thats how it works.

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Sonic_c
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Midlands

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
No you did, I was gonna mention that I was confused myself about that comment but I think he really is just that drunk atm.


i was last night, mega headache today i had a blast though in my studio beer and music lol

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
lol it all makes sense now

the alcohol
the thread with the kick


haha i think you got me, its an awful kick/laser!

For the record i dont drink often, so forgive the sillyness


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RichieV
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ya some full on lazer

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Sonic_c
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man i feel hung today


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