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Originally posted by feelgood That being said, it does require a certain level of pretentiousness to say things were 'better' in the day.

I don't think it has to be seen as pretentious. We just liked it one way, and people who go out more now like it another. I say pepperoni pizza is better, but I don't look down on those who prefer pineapple.

Ok, pineapple is gross on a pie, but you know what I mean

It also has to be taken into consideration that what you experience when you're young, when everything is fresh, new and exciting will automatically skew your opinion into thinking that things were better back then.

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Originally posted by The Highroller It also has to be taken into consideration that what you experience when you're young, when everything is fresh, new and exciting will automatically skew your opinion into thinking that things were better back then.

Very much so.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno He's not talking about the same kind of Techno you're talking about.

Haha...

Maybe you should post a YouTube comparison???

I would but I'm at work and no embed on the iPhone...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

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Originally posted by WittyHandle If you think what is out there now is the same as what we had available to us, I genuinely feel bad for you that you didn't see what it had to offer us at the time.

I'm turning 31 next month, I've been in it since 2000. Thats 10 years, I think it's enough to gauge things.

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There is no doubt that having at least a dozen viable options every night and at least 2 or 3 on ANY GIVEN WEEKNIGHT was better.

as for the vibe etc its a matter of opinion. But when people showed up for the music instead of everything else, in my opinion, this was how parties became legendary.

I miss the days when you could go to Limelight on a WEDNESDAY and it was 3 floors of packed. (1500 people i think) They used to bring in DJs every week...

"those who know" know what im talking about

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by malek I'm turning 31 next month, I've been in it since 2000. Thats 10 years, I think it's enough to gauge things.

you came in when it nosedived and its barely recovered since... although things are on an upward climb these days. I see a rennaisance happening despite the doomers out there.

But its a fragile recovery at the moment.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by The Highroller when you're young, when everything is fresh, new and exciting

Actually, keeping a youthful mindset can help carry that on well into one's later years.

The rave scene was started in Toronto because someone went somewhere else, saw what was going on, came home and decided to recreate what they experienced when they were somewhere else. Lots of unused warehouse space and little regulation in regard to use of that space definitely facilitated the process.

These days, most of the people I know who go somewhere else just come back shaking their heads at the Toronto scene, as there's no room and far too much red tape to wade through to recreate what they experienced when they were somewhere else.

And please, don't bother telling me how great it is here - I get it, you're a fan. I'm not talking about what's already in existence in this city, I'm talking about potential.

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So, it has been decided that old days were the best and now the scene has gone downhill.

Question arises: what shall we do or can do to ...

a) somewhat bring back the old days
b) save the scene
c) maintain the quality of music and clubs

Lets face it, we can't change what people wear to clubs and how many kilos of gel they put in their hair but lets contribute what we can and should do to help keep the "vibe alive".

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To be fair, there was a ton of pretentious behaviour in the old scene.

Genre snobs, battles over what club was better, and those of us that never paid cover laughed @ the rest of you secretly.

Most of my comments are partially because I'm not as much a part of the current community as I once was, but it's more of a comment on the overall culture & vibe in society now.

To be honest, when I've been out in Toronto over the past few yrs it was like going to a top 40 night out west. Not exactly identical, although I've heard lots of the same music being played, but the people were definitely the same.

Anyone here from back in the day should recognize the significance of the System vs Plastique analogy.

There would be mounted cops lined up on Plastique's side of the street, a constant stream of fights and shiny clothes. The patrons were as plastic and vapid as the name suggests, but more to the point it was your typical Top 40 club.

System meanwhile gave the cops nowhere near as many problems on a nightly basis, and a disturbance between patrons were few and far between. Everyone just wanted to dance and have a good time, and there were tons of different people getting along.

Basically things felt like Plastique more than they do System.

Yeah, I'm old.

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Originally posted by The Highroller It also has to be taken into consideration that what you experience when you're young, when everything is fresh, new and exciting will automatically skew your opinion into thinking that things were better back then.

I've come to realize this is very, very true.

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