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hes delusional and lives in a bubble where everything right/GOP is right...


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The cash just wasn't enough for Sarah Palin.....

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Originally posted by woscar
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How is Palin saying "Don't retreat, reload", for which she wasn't referring to reloading actual guns, any worse than Obama saying "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun".... Or when he said, "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." ??


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Originally posted by Lews
What the fuck are you talking about?? Are you forgetting the Tea Party?? People throwing bricks and shit through windows after the health bill passed?


*sigh* Prove to me that anyone who threw a brick through a window was part of the Tea Party movement. You can't. Bricks through windows are a Demeocrat protest special.. even against themselves!

-Democrat Maurice Schwenkler smashed 11 windows at Colorado Democratic Party headquarters, trying to get Tea Partiers blamed for it. In true form, State Democratic Party Chairwoman Pat Waak immediately blamed Tea Partiers until Maurice was busted the next day. LOL, OOPS!
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13199902?source=bb

-Brick thrown through GOP headquarters in New York:
http://www.thefoxnation.com/gop/201...op-headquarters

There has not been a single arrest and criminal charge related to any Tea Party person. Not a single piece of evidence exists showing violence by Tea Partiers at their events, or advocating for violent revolution. Every time something crazy happens in the peripheral like the guy who flew his cesna into the IRS building, the Left desperately tries to tie those people to the Tea Party.


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The Tea Party spitting on people and calling them racial and sexual slurs?


Jesus Christ... you so blindly eat what's fed to you by radical left wing propoganda. You can see on the video (at the 1:20 mark) that the guy had his hands cupped around his mouth while yelling, and a "say it don't spray it" moment happened on Cleaver... who later accused the guy, and I quote, of "having allowed his saliva to hit my face." When pressed further to file charges a couple days later, Cleaver backtracked and now refuses to admit he was actually "spat on". Not a single piece of audio or video caught ANYONE saying a racial slur while the black congressmen were walking through the crowd. Not one. And Jesse Jackson Jr. was walking around with two cameras filming it all. Andrew Breitbart offered $100,000 to the United Negro College Fund if anyone could produce any video, audio, or legitimate evidence. Nobody has been able to do so. Heath Schuler (Dem- NC) originally said he heard "the N word" used, then when he was pressed by a reporter on April 14th, he retreated and admitted he never really heard "the N word." The only thing corroborated was someone calling Barney Frank a faggot, but that was after Frank verbally bitch slapped them first (still doesn't excuse it though, I admit). For fuck's sake, have you already forgotten the vile hatred spewed at "BusHitler" for 8 years by your faithful robots?


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Seriously, how can you seriously be blaming the violence on the left, let alone on OBAMA?!? This country is getting so fucked up if someone who is as rational as you can possibly believe this shit. Holy fuck.

I really have no idea how you can possibly believe the left are the ones causing all the violence.


You just made my day with the above quote. How??? Aside from the class warefare rhetoric Obama's been spewing about evil AIG and every other type of executive under the sun to rile up the public, this is how I can possibly believe, you uninformed baffoon:

1) Black conservative Kenneth Gladney beaten by Democrat Union thug (who was arrested) at St. Louis town hall on August 6th. Video included. http://sweetness-light.com/archive/...-hall-protester

2) Tampa man beaten up by Union thug (who was arrested) at Tampa town hall event. Video included. http://www.kayirli.com/TAMPA-TOWN-H...zVJSW5CUDlEX3M=

3) April 15th, St. Charles, MO: Secretary of the St. Charles County Democratic Committee John Durajczyk and his buddy Steve Belosi attacked Tea Party protestors, including an old lady who started crying from the verbal assault in her face. http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010...nk-contributor/

4) March 29th: Norman Laboon, a Democrat who TWICE donated to Obama's campaign, was arrested for threatening to kill Republican Eric Cantor. One if his several threats? "You receive my bullets in your office, remember they will be placed in your heads." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...h_n_517246.html

Laboon's Obama campaign donation record here: http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate...=PA&last=LEBOON

5) September 3rd: 65 year old man's finger bitten off by Democrat and Moveon.org member, after heated discussion at a healthcare rally. http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/kt...0,7135717.story

6) TWO books written by Democrat supporter Krandall Kraus called "Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story" (2004), and "Checkpoint" by Nicholson Baker (2005) on the same topic. But that's art I guess... so it's cool.

7) Movie "Death of a President" is made in 2007 by Leftist Gabriel Range, about assassinating Bush, and plays at the Toronto Film Festival.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...in_bush_hatred/

8) Open borders activist smacks man with camera while protesting FOR illegal immigration in Arizona last week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO9X...player_embedded

9) Arizona Capitol building vandalized by Democrats and illegal alien supporters last week: http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...vandalized.html

10) Police in Arizona get drilled with bottles during riot caused by illegal immigrant (and no doubt Democrat) supporters: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36703

11) September 4th: radical Left wing group "Earth Liberation Front" (Democrats), tears down two radio towers in Seattle and blows them up. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...ppled9thld.html

12) Far left extrimist, and OBAMA SUPPORTER, professor Amy Bishop shot and killed some collegues. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...--84396817.html

13) 2008: Obama/Biden campaigners walk up to the McCain campaign office in Virginia, ask for Obama/Biden signs, then spray the McCain workers in the face with mace when they are told that the Obama office is up the street.

14) 2004: Three John Kerry supporters arrested in North Carolina after vandalizing the Bush/Cheney headquarters.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...p-vandals_x.htm

15) 2004: Bush/Cheney headquarters in Knoxville gets shot up at night. http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapu...ives/018245.php

16) October 6, 2004: West Allis, Wisconsin: "More than 50 demonstrators supporting Democrat presidential candidate John Kerry stormed a Republican campaign office in West Allis."

17) October 5th, 2004: "A group of protestors stormed and then ransacked a Bush-Cheney headquarters building in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday, according to Local 6 News."
http://www.clickorlando.com/politic...861/detail.html

I mean, this is just a snapshot. I won't even get into the scores of examples of Republican speakers who get forced off stage while trying to give talks at colleges by the "tolerant" Left. You need to take your head out of your ass and realize there's a world of information beyond Keith Olbermann and MSNBC's reporting. You're so deluded, I bet you'll sweep every example I just gave under the rug and be like, "NO! NO! It's all bullshit! It's the Tea Partiers who are violent!"

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Holy Christ...

First, I don't watch Olberman or MSBC. If I watch the news I'll watch Fox News AND CNN to try to get a balanced view, since I don't believe you can get all your news from one source, since it's going to be twisted one way or the other, with Daily Show thrown in for the lulz.

Second,
quote:
You're so deluded, I bet you'll sweep every example I just gave under the rug and be like, "NO! NO! It's all bullshit! It's the Tea Partiers who are violent!"


No, what I'm going to say is this:

NO! NO! PEOPLE are violent. Both sides. People are fucking idiots.

Look at what I said
quote:
I'm so sick of this split party/split country bullshit. Maybe we should have let the South secede. This is just fucking ridiculous. I really have no idea how you can possibly believe the left are the ones causing all the violence.


Both fucking sides are idiotic and stupid.

Look closely

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how you can possibly believe the left are the ones causing all the violence.


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all


I'm not blaming everything on the right. I'm saying that people are fucked up and idiotic. People are being violent and it's fucking disgraceful. I'm sick of both sides being idiots. I'm sick of being embarrassed to be American. I'm sick of being afraid that my fellow countrymen are going to kill me for disagreeing with them. I'm sick of all the stupid rhetoric and bullshit being thrown around. I'm sick of all the nonsensical insults.

Oh, and on that point, it's funny how in my post I called you rational and intelligent and you call me delusional and throw a bunch of insults at me

Really, I'm just getting sick of this shit. Fucking country is supposed to be the UNITED States and we're being polarized more and more by the day. It's disgusting. Everyone is just fucking stupid.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The cash just wasn't enough for Sarah Palin.....

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7) Movie "Death of a President" is made in 2007 by Leftist Gabriel Range, about assassinating Bush, and plays at the Toronto Film Festival.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...in_bush_hatred/


*epic facepalm*

somehow a movie by a british filmaker about an alternative future is evidence of leftist violence? let me guess, you haven't seen it, don't know anything about it, and in typical 17sss style, are merely regurgitating unparsed information from one of your equally ignorant blogs?

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*epic facepalm*

somehow a movie by a british filmaker about an alternative future is evidence of leftist violence? let me guess, you haven't seen it, don't know anything about it, and in typical 17sss style, are merely regurgitating unparsed information from one of your equally ignorant blogs?



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and if you look through some of the other examples, you see a desperate 17sss clutching at straws. like the shooting in knoxville, even though nobody has been arrested, 17sss feels confident enough to tells us all who did it.

or the shooting by amy bishop, which his own fucking link says

quote:

I don't have any reason to believe Bishop's crime was politically motivated.


im sure we could find plenty of other examples if we could be bothered, but who takes that much time to argue with someone whose view of reality is so skewed?

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lol @ this whole thread

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quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Holy Christ...

NO! NO! PEOPLE are violent. Both sides. People are fucking idiots.
Look at what I said
Both fucking sides are idiotic and stupid.
Look closely

I'm not blaming everything on the right. I'm saying that people are fucked up and idiotic. People are being violent and it's fucking disgraceful. I'm sick of both sides being idiots. I'm sick of being embarrassed to be American. I'm sick of being afraid that my fellow countrymen are going to kill me for disagreeing with them. I'm sick of all the stupid rhetoric and bullshit being thrown around. I'm sick of all the nonsensical insults.

Oh, and on that point, it's funny how in my post I called you rational and intelligent and you call me delusional and throw a bunch of insults at me


Well dude... two things:

1) You're right, I read through your post and admittedly missed where you said "all"... and thought you were saying the violence comes from the Right- hence the uninformed/delusional crack.

2) I called you delusional and a baffoon because of number 1. So, please accept my apology... that's on me. I feel bad now


Other than that, I agree with most of what you just wrote... I too am sick of the violence and idiots. IMO, it stems from a highly uneducated and uninformed public. But much of the demagoguery comes strait from the top... I have a problem with that too because the public gets more fired up every time a new mark is selected and demonized. It's a disgrace, yes, but unfortunately we're going to have to just expect to deal with this as the norm for a while. I truly do not see civilized, calm discource returning for a while; bipartisanship is dead man, at least for now.

But, one thing I wasn't wrong about was the paragraph clearing up that bullshit about the racial slurs and spitting thrown at the black congressmen. When their feet was held to the fire, they all backed off and shut up. My conspiracy theory side says that I believe they were purposely taunting the Tea partiers by walking through the crowd with Nancy and that big fucking gavel, Jesse Jackson Jr. with his cameras filming, hoping to spark an incident... 99% of the time, they walk through the tunnel but on that day, it was time to prance through a crowd of mostly white people with smirks on their faces. Apologies again for misconstruing what you said man.

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*epic facepalm*

somehow a movie by a british filmaker about an alternative future is evidence of leftist violence? let me guess, you haven't seen it, don't know anything about it, and in typical 17sss style, are merely regurgitating unparsed information from one of your equally ignorant blogs?


are we not talking about the issue of "inciting"? if someone made a film about a fantasy assassination of Obama while he was still in office, do you think the Left would say, "It's cool... it's just an expression of art"? Or would there be outrageous outrage over inciting violence by the Right.

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and if you look through some of the other examples, you see a desperate 17sss clutching at straws. like the shooting in knoxville, even though nobody has been arrested, 17sss feels confident enough to tells us all who did it.

or the shooting by amy bishop, which his own fucking link says


Yeah nobody was arrested because it got shot up in the middle of the night when nobody was there. Would it be safe to assume that it wasn't Bush supporters who shot up the Bush campaign office?

Per Amy Bishop's own family (if, that is you bother to read): Amy was a far-left political extremist who was obsessed with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.

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are we not talking about the issue of "inciting"? if someone made a film about a fantasy assassination of Obama while he was still in office, do you think the Left would say, "It's cool... it's just an expression of art"?


the documentary-style movie is a critique of neo conservatism in the US at the time is was made. it wasn't inciting anything, be it explicit or implicit.

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Or would there be outrageous outrage over inciting violence by the Right.


so make that argument then. don't just copy-paste some nonsense about a film and pretend its an example of inciting violence by those radical leftists.

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