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Originally posted by StereoPrincess hmmm. they really have to rent out the entire royal york hotel just for the RCMP officials to stay at. couldn't they find a cheaper hotel.

I didn't read it, but I disagree with anything said in the above post.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Yeah, imagine it will all be peaceful, then it would be a hell of a financial debacle. Come on, this is Canada and not USA or UK where the anarchists are batshit crazy (or is it just the agent provocateurs). The last one in Canada was so boring, that police had to get their own agent provocateurs going to make the headlines more worthwhile, as they had nothing else to tell the media. I really hope (I know its hopeless) that they better dam achieve something BIG or IMPORTANT at this 2010 G8/G20, because I will be keeping my eye very very closely on the developments this time around.

The Canadian idiots are relatively few, the problem is the international professional protesters/lunatics that like to play the global circuit. As part of the security team from the Olympics, I can tell you that most Black Bloc protestors weren't from Canada - a few were American, most were European.

As much as we'd like to have a low security profile for this type of event, it's just not possible in today's climate. Although many of you complain about the security pricetag, how many here would complain about the cleanup bill from a weeks worth of violent protests, vandalism, and other property destruction? Would it be in the $1 billion range? Not likely, but as we all know, sometimes it's not the value of the damage, but the strategic placement of the damage. Is it completely out to lunch to consider what would happen if protestors disrupted the Yonge/Bloor subway station for a week? Certainly not $1 billion worth of damage, but almost as much in economic disruption because it's harder for people to travel through the city.

That's the primary reason for the security price tag.

As for the figures cited for meetings in Pittsburgh, I can tell you that those are low-balled figures from the city on what THEY spent, not the total operation. American military spending on that operation was over $200 million. You can bet that state police, FBI, NSA, CIA, and a host of other organizations had significant budgets for that event.

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Originally posted by nacarter

There are two big issues here:
1) the fact the price tag keeps ballooning and is so far off the original estimates.
2) they didn't find a more cost effective way of having the meeting, in today's technologically advanced world.

The cost of the proposed security may be justified and realistic, but if we knew that the amount was going to be so large, would we have wanted the summit in the first place?

What was the cost for security for the olympics?

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Originally posted by Orko What was the cost for security for the olympics?

A cool Billion I think.

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Originally posted by Orko There are two big issues here: 1) the fact the price tag keeps ballooning and is so far off the original estimates. 2) they didn't find a more cost effective way of having the meeting, in today's technologically advanced world. The cost of the proposed security may be justified and realistic, but if we knew that the amount was going to be so large, would we have wanted the summit in the first place? What was the cost for security for the olympics?

I googled the cost of security for Vancouver Olympics, and it was about $1 billion by many estimates. At least that was for a MONTH worth of Olympics/Paralympics. And at least Canada got something out of that, in form of entertainment, infrastructure and tourism development, sports development and record-breaking medal haul (while leaving eastside Vancouver in the same shape as before).

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Originally posted by Orko I didn't read it, but I disagree with anything said in the above post.

lol.

*shakes head. :P

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I googled the cost of security for Vancouver Olympics, and it was about $1 billion by many estimates. At least that was for a MONTH worth of Olympics/Paralympics. And at least Canada got something out of that, in form of entertainment, infrastructure and tourism development, sports development and record-breaking medal haul (while leaving eastside Vancouver in the same shape as before).

Olympics is a totally different event with different security needs.
Between the two summits you could say the G8/G20 is a week long, or half of the Olympics, but with about 10x the security threat.

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Originally posted by Skipper Olympics is a totally different event with different security needs. Between the two summits you could say the G8/G20 is a week long, or half of the Olympics, but with about 10x the security threat.

Good way of putting it.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Yeah, imagine it will all be peaceful, then it would be a hell of a financial debacle. Come on, this is Canada and not USA or UK where the anarchists are batshit crazy (or is it just the agent provocateurs).

Don't worry, there will be thousands of protesters flying and driving in from other countries.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium What about the other $600 million? The breakdown doesnt include the recently increased totals.

It says additional.

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Originally posted by Orko There are two big issues here: 1) the fact the price tag keeps ballooning and is so far off the original estimates. 2) they didn't find a more cost effective way of having the meeting, in today's technologically advanced world.

If they stayed with the plan of having both summits in Huntsville, instead of separating them and having the more expensive one in $$$ downtown Toronto, this wouldn't be news.

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Originally posted by I_Am_Vince The truck-mounted model can emit an ear-splitting 143 decibels, far above the pain threshold of 110 to 120dB.

This is terribly annoying sound it probably makes

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Originally posted by PivotTechno What a retarded generalisation.

LOL i guess u arent old enough to remember bob rae's NDP reign of terror then?

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