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jester
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charge more for Coronation Street syndication


I think being crucified be less painful than watching that show.

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devnull
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One thing I am surprised the price of petrol and products that are made from it have not gone up in price. I thought we were running out of oil and what not

BP loses about 40,000 barrels a day and its been 55 days. Thats 2.2 million barrels. That equals 349 772.049 m3

What of waste of petrol and our environment.

I wonder what kind of thing BP trying to come up with to make people pay more for oil


price of oil has gone down cuz of the financial crisis in europe. Mainly greece


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devnull
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Originally posted by Orko
atrina? Get people out of the area when you already have a warning.

Somebody has said it before, but I think it needs to be stated again. BP has far more resources than the gov to deal with it. The gov doesn't just have oil rig equipment sitting around which allows them to go down and plug something like this. Plus, it takes time/planning to build proper equipment that can do this.


I'd say that BP has the technological knowledge (somehow!), but could definitely use more hands/grunts to help cleaning. It should have been all hands on deck from the beginning. No matter who you represent.

With all the army ppl the US have, it could use them to clean up. Just bill the hours back to BP.


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Magnetonium
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Here's a good article I read today, should be especially interesting to those who are still defending BP:

http://www.thespec.com/News/article/788645

quote:

BP engineer called well a "nightmare" week before blowout

June 14, 2010

WASHINGTON - BP took measures to cut costs in the weeks before the catastrophic blowout in the Gulf of Mexico as it dealt with one problem after another, prompting a BP engineer to describe the doomed rig as a "nightmare well," according to internal documents released Monday.

The comment by BP engineer Brian Morel came in an email April 14, six days before the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion that killed 11 people and has sent tens of millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf in the nation's worst environmental disaster.

The email was among dozens of internal documents released by the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which is investigating the explosion and its aftermath.

In a letter to BP chief executive Tony Hayward, Reps. Henry Waxman and Bart Stupak, both Democrats, noted at least five questionable decisions BP made in the days leading up to the explosion.
"The common feature of these five decisions is that they posed a trade-off between cost and well safety," said Waxman and Stupak. Waxman chairs the energy panel while Stupak heads a subcommittee on oversight and investigations.

"Time after time, it appears that BP made decisions that increased the risk of a blowout to save the company time or expense," the lawmakers wrote in the 14-page letter to Hayward. "If this is what happened, BP's carelessness and complacency have inflicted a heavy toll on the Gulf, its inhabitants, and the workers on the rig."

The letter, supplemented by 61 footnotes and dozens of documents, outlines a series of questions Hayward can expect when he comes before Stupak's subcommittee on Thursday.
The hearing will be Hayward's first appearance before a congressional committee since the explosion and sinking of the BP-operated Deepwater Horizon rig. BP America President Lamar McKay and other officials represented the company at earlier hearings.

The letter by Waxman and Stupak focuses on details such as the design of the well, saying that the company apparently chose a riskier option among two possibilities to provide a barrier to the flow of gas in space surrounding steel tubes in the well.

Despite warnings from its own engineers, "BP chose the more risky casing option, apparently because the liner option would have cost US$7 to $10 million more and taken longer," Waxman and Stupak said.
In the brief email, Morel said the company is likely to make last-minute changes in the well.
"We could be running it in 2-3 days, so need a relative quick response. Sorry for the late notice, this has been nightmare well which has everyone all over the place," Morel wrote.

BP apparently rejected advice of a subcontractor, Halliburton Inc., in preparing for a cementing job to close up the well. BP rejected Halliburton's recommendation to use 21 "centralizers" to make sure the casing ran down the centre of the well bore. Instead, BP used six centralizers.

In an email on April 16, a BP official involved in the decision explained: "It will take 10 hours to install them. I do not like this." Later that day, another official recognized the risks of proceeding with insufficient centralizers but commented: "who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."
A spokesman for BP could not immediately reached for comment.

Associated Press


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quote:
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I think being crucified be less painful than watching that show.


My gf is Scottish, and makes me watch it on Sundays :S


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Orko
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quote:
Originally posted by devnull
I'd say that BP has the technological knowledge (somehow!), but could definitely use more hands/grunts to help cleaning. It should have been all hands on deck from the beginning. No matter who you represent.

With all the army ppl the US have, it could use them to clean up. Just bill the hours back to BP.


Agree on all points.

The last sentence:

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jad
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"who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine."

.. carelessness.


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quote:
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My gf is Scottish, and makes me watch it on Sundays :S


I dont mind watchingCorrie Street when I happen to see it on. Guess cause I grew up hearing it on in the background on weekend mornings as my parents always watched it back then.

Find something abt it familar and soothing.


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if so, how do i use it?

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devnull
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Here's a good article I read today, should be especially interesting to those who are still defending BP:

http://www.thespec.com/News/article/788645



Hammer meets nail meets coffin. BP will get RAPEDDDD


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yankeeBaby
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is there an 'ignore' function on this board?
if so, how do i use it?



for real.


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1dawoman
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If the Obama administration steps in to correct this disaster, what kind of message would that be sending to other Oil Corporations?

"Try not to fuck up...but if you do, we'll be there to clean up the spill"

screw that....BP NEEDS to be help accountable for their actions. This was their mistake and they need to deal with it. I hope this is a lesson to all other Oil Corportations so that this sort of disaster never happens again.

Now...does that let Obama off the hook enitrely? No, I think he needs to start changing regulations that are in place to make them more rigid and to hold higher standards for drillers.

Bottom line, Bush ignored public outcry and was playing golf shortly after Katrina.....Obama couldn't be as ignorant as him if he tried....


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