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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is that actually a nostalgia trip, though? I thought it was more like, "Haha, hey look, it's David Bowie in a cheesy '80s movie!" Seems to me less like genuine nostalgia than camp appreciation. Nostalgia is about looking back to things that you long to live through again, or yearning for lost feelings, not really poking fun at bits of your childhood.

I was just going after his segmant called "New Rules"

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu I was just going after his segmant called "New Rules"

Wtf are you talking about? I wasn't even talking about Bill Maher in that post, nor was I addressing you.

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu I was just going after his segmant called "New Rules"

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Wtf are you talking about? I wasn't even talking about Bill Maher in that post, nor was I addressing you.

I didn't get you either...I quoted Bill Maher and you asked what did he say. But I had already quoted it "it better give me a buzz and a woody"

So I didn't understand why you asked me what he said about the movie, that is what he said about the movie?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is that actually a nostalgia trip, though? I thought it was more like, "Haha, hey look, it's David Bowie in a cheesy '80s movie!" Seems to me less like genuine nostalgia than camp appreciation. Nostalgia is about looking back to things that you long to live through again, or yearning for lost feelings, not really poking fun at bits of your childhood.

Completely fucking agree. For most, I think that film is a camp appreciation magnet (like the rocky horror show etc.), not a cornerstone of childhood nostalgia.

Anyway, as I get older I find that nostalgia is not what it used to be.

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu I didn't get you either...I quoted Bill Maher and you asked what did he say. But I had already quoted it "it better give me a buzz and a woody" So I didn't understand why you asked me what he said about the movie, that is what he said about the movie?

I posted a pedantic one liner about your spelling of Maher's name. Then I replied to someone else and you randomly quoted me and kept talking about Bill Maher like it had anything to do with what I said to Paradox Lost.

I'll repeat Maige's question: are you high?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I can't decide if you're saying "Your mixes suck!" or if you mistakenly think the Epic House mixes are the only things I've ever done. Although those weren't nostalgia mixes as such, because I was getting into the style for the first time and wanted to share it in a "This is some forgotten history" kind of way. I do think that people obsessed over how past music is better, whether they actually remember it or not, is a slightly different mutation of the same mindset I'm railing against, and isn't particularly relevant to this thread. Saying I'm nostalgically obsessed with 90s prog is about as accurate as Existo saying woscar likes "minimal hipster shit".

I can't get what you're aiming for with these statements.

Simply put, I fucking rate those mixes for a multitude of reasons, one of them being the quality and musical integrity of the tracks which I seldom find in today's saturated, polluted and commericalized market. One of my comments on those threads was that I'd done exactly the same mixes but not in that sequence or bothered to put them out there. It's not so much nostalgia (even though I do have nostalgia about some of those nights and that music back in the 90's but that's due to a far more complex social/behavioural standpoint), but about appreciation for for well made art that for some reason has not been continued in the same or even evolutionary form. It's a simple case of liking that music maybe because certain basic or complex aspects appeal to me and my have even helped shape my tastes (hence why I miss them when I don't find it again).

So lighten up. I liked them a lot and think you did something great.

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I'm glad you like them, but I'm not talking about those mixes. I've made three mixes - Regressive House, Close Your Eyes and Excession - that aimed to prove that the great music of the 90s is still being made. Whether they succeeded or not is personal preference, but that's not my point here.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I've made three mixes - Regressive House, Close Your Eyes and Excession - that aimed to prove that the great music of the 90s is still being made.

Link them already!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is that actually a nostalgia trip, though? I thought it was more like, "Haha, hey look, it's David Bowie in a cheesy '80s movie!" Seems to me less like genuine nostalgia than camp appreciation. Nostalgia is about looking back to things that you long to live through again, or yearning for lost feelings, not really poking fun at bits of your childhood.

There is certainly something to be said for that and other similar types of memorabilia being mere camp appreciation, but it's also the type of thing (if not the same thing) that's part and parcel of this larger 'cult of nostalgia' that SYSTEM-J alluded to earlier, which tends to be characterized by this semi-facetious, semi-genuine nostalgic appreciation for certain aspects of popular culture essentially associated with their childhood.

"Hey, remember Labyriiiiyeahhhh, that shit was awesome- those were the days!," is the conversational representation of what I'm talking about. Replace Labyrinth with The Never Ending Story, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or JEM, and you've managed to replicate precisely the same conversation, and possibly the same theme party later that night.

I'm not attempting to suggest that there is anything necessarily disagreeable with these attitudes, but as I mentioned earlier, it's something that seems to have slowly amassed a great deal of momentum around itself, slowly developing into what almost feels like a pop culture movement, to the extent where I can't watch something like Adult Swim without coming to believe that these playful and overblown nostalgic sensibilities amount to the backbone of its humor.

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