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igottaknow
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oh dear lord what is happening to my thread.

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epicaricacy
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arn't u a englesh techur?


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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
oh dear lord what is happening to my thread.


It's being washleyed.


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Lira
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quote:
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you can play chords on a guitar with one hand, buts its more common to use two

Screw common!!!


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Lira
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quote:
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It's being washleyed.

I almost said the same thing. However, I didn't know if the proper term was "washleyed", "ahleyfied", or just "reiki'd". Still, I love it


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igottaknow
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quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
It's being washleyed.


I've been trying to be nice like Lira. But its so hard. How do you do it Lira?

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Omega_Blue
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Originally posted by ********
Let me guess you were looking into a mirror when you read it?




Actually the ppaino has far more 'notes' in that it has multiple octaves, and each note has a seperate pitch.



One of the largest pianos avialable has 97 keys.




humans have 10 digits to play the piano with (in almost all conditions) except when when playing with the face elbows and feet. going well beyond the realm of play - this would also be applicable to guitar though.




The number of keys on the largets pianos normally available.





For unique chords they don't - by this I mean chords playing the same pitched notes. And while I said yes you can play different pitched notes that are the same letter - this is a legacy of the very poorly created western notation system though, because the notes are really nothing alike they have different pitches, they just happen to have a mathematical likeness in terms of aural sense - each note is really very much unique by pitch. The guitar allows multiple strings that allow the same pitch to be played in different finger positions. While the timbre is different the chord itself is the same - something you can't do with multiple figering positions on the piano - although true you can use different digits to play different chords on the piano you can do this with guitar also - the point was the position while playing the instrument is drastically altered on a guitar and there are multiple arangements - added more by changing tuning of each string.




No it isn't.




Maybe you just have short arms? The guitar is about half the size of a piano but the arm range is about the same. And you have to fight gravity more.....




This just shows you don't use an electric guitar.




Because it is a primarily string instrument - although yes it is also percusive like piano - the sound characteristics of a guitar are better suited for sustained notes because they can ... pianos sustain is more of a reverb, not a true sustain.






most piano music is that way. up into contemporary music piano work has mostly been very livid. Guitars have concentrated on chord repetition with exceptions of specific types of guitar play such as flemenco - the electric guitar is better suited for sustain though.








see above piano pedaling is like a flat balloon.




Keyboard isn't piano. The keyboard as a synth will just give way to computer.... the keyboard with effects knobs etc.. is THE most complex insturment. But the piano is seen as a distinct instrument from the synth keyboard. The guitar on the other hand is often seen as common electric as accoustic - you actually ought to define accoustic or electric when using the term guitar.





Classical score is extremely limited in dynamic notation. Tab isn't really any better - but the score and capabilities of the insturment are two differnet things... piano is a percussion instrument - guitar is a string istrument - string insturments have a lot more sensitivity than percussion instruments because they require more control of vibration than a percusion instrument because of the actual lenght of the instrument.





Guitars don't play notes at the same time they play them very shortly after one another, it is called strumming. Pianos on the other hand tend to play notes simultaniously. Thus the guitar is more sequential in mode of play. If you do the same thing with a piano the thickness of the piano sound as a effect of the size of it being a reverberated percusive instrument muddies the sound resulting in poor results in short time sequential play. Guitar is effectively designed for note plending by sequential play thus the point.





Guitars can do things well beyond semitones. This is why partialtones is brought into this.. piano isn't designed for being offkey. Rarely do you see people mess with the piano strings. It is too big of an instrument to do that really effectively. Also the size of the keys limits the size of the person playing somewhat so as playing the instrument like a harpsicord is reduced for even giants.






Tuning a piano is far more involved although working on the same principles - pianos arn't made to be easily retuned. Although it can be done, doing it while playing is more diffucult than doing so with a guitar. It simply isn't in the realm of play on available guitars Try tuining and playing at the same time.




They cannot. Unforunately you don't understand because you don't get that pitch is different on notes and you are clinging to western musical tradition.





If it has a string to do so, yes.






Unfortuantely I can see you havn't ventured outside the world of western music notation. Come back to me when you actually know how music works.


butthurt, bill ashley? i'm on my way out the door but i'll just answer your first few ridiculous posits.

1. your "look into the mirror" comment. i used to use that in first grade. thanks for the memories.
2. a piano has 7 DISTINCT NOTES you MORON. just because it's of a different octave doesn't mean it's a DIFFERENT NOTE. play a fucking A5 to anyone who knows their shit and then play an A3 and i guaran-fucking-tee you that they will tell you both NOTES are A's. do you even know what an A5 is? a piano has 88 distinct pitches, but only 7 notes. wow.
3. a STANDARD PIANO has 88 keys. we're not talking about the biggest pianos ever, as if that would make my argument any less strong. lol! hey i've seen guitars with multiple necks, with variations of 12, 7, 6 strings.. therefore let's argue that all guitars have 25 strings!
4. you will be able to play near-infinitely more chords with a piano than with a guitar. AGAIN, why? the guitar MAXES OUT AT 6 NOTES WITHIN THE CHORD. the piano, if not played with your entire body (like i had argued in a semi-joking manner) maxes out at 10 NOTES. do some math and you'll realize that with 4 more notes, the # of possibilities increase dramatically. idiot.
5.
6.
7. etc. this all moronic shit. i'm not bothering.
8. dude i've been playing guitar for years. the electric guitar DOES NOT HAVE PEDALS YOU FUCKING IDIOT. that's like saying a pair of tech12's has a efx-500 built-in. when you buy a fucking stratocaster (do you know what that is?) you do not get a free distortion pedal that's necessary for its performance.
9. a piano, while considered percussion is comprised of STRINGS. the pedals are for SUSTAIN not reverb, you obviously have no idea about pianos. what do they OFFICIALLY call the pedals underneath a piano. SUSTAIN PEDALS. i've run out of synonyms for "idiot" so i'm gonna have to start repeating myself. you're a moron.

there is just so, so much more wrong to your arguments, but i'm walking out the door like i said.

you're an idiot. stop arguing, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. you've obviously never had any experience with either of the two instruments, whereas i've been playing both for over 10 years. go try to be smart to someone else who may actually believe your idiotic ramblings. perhaps a 5 year old.

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ModernNosferatu
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looks fun but I bet it blows





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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Screw common!!!




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Chris Crossland
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quote:
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looks fun but I bet it blows






That must make it harder because he's holding it!


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ModernNosferatu
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On the second video shows far more talent. Controlling your breathing and on key at the same time on a piano like-ish instrument.


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Chris Crossland
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quote:
Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
On the second video shows far more talent. Controlling your breathing and on key at the same time on a piano like-ish instrument.


I was just poking fun at ********.


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