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infiniteJEST
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yeah nigga

it's a dynex


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Fledz
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It's very fucked up. I'd rather nobody own guns at all, I'd really rather them not even exist in the same way I'd like for us to un-invent cruise missles and reality television- but that's not the world that we live in. And so I own a gun.

And I am glad that the resident owned a gun. You can espouse all you like that well, statistics show that banning guns altogether would have minimized the occurence of such an event happening in the first place by 86.923%, but the fact of the matter is that this did happen, the kid illegally had a gun in the first place, and the resident was adequately prepared to defend himself.

Though I'm sure break-ins never happen in other countries. Oh wait, I have lived in another country that had a gun ban and had my shit broken into. That's great.


I don't think this is a fair response. My response originally was directed at the people who would inevitably jump in here like in every other gun thread and shout "But I need my gun to protect me in case the government decides to turn against me, and against Osama Bin Laden who might be next door, and it's my GOD GIVEN RIGHT to carry a high powered weapon!", not at educated and logical individuals who can see the merit in the general public not owning guns, granted, as difficult or as impossible as that may be in the USA.

The sarcastic remarks add nothing to the conversation.


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Old Post Sep-30-2010 23:44  Croatia
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I don't think this is a fair response. My response originally was directed at the people who would inevitably jump in here like in every other gun thread and shout "But I need my gun to protect me in case the government decides to turn against me, and against Osama Bin Laden who might be next door, and it's my GOD GIVEN RIGHT to carry a high powered weapon!", not at educated and logical individuals who can see the merit in the general public not owning guns, granted, as difficult or as impossible as that may be in the USA.

The sarcastic remarks add nothing to the conversation.


I think he’s completely right. if I lived in the US I’d own a gun. Hell, I’d have 10. You don’t need a weapon to protect yourself from the government, you need it to protect yourself from all the moronic Americans.

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Fledz
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I never said I wouldn't and considering the area that he lives in, I certainly don't blame him.


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yeah nigga

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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I don't think this is a fair response. My response originally was directed at the people who would inevitably jump in here like in every other gun thread and shout "But I need my gun to protect me in case the government decides to turn against me, and against Osama Bin Laden who might be next door, and it's my GOD GIVEN RIGHT to carry a high powered weapon!", not at educated and logical individuals who can see the merit in the general public not owning guns, granted, as difficult or as impossible as that may be in the USA.

The sarcastic remarks add nothing to the conversation.


It's not a fair response because it doesn't live up to your prejudice? How many actual Americans have you spoken with? Do all of them seem to think they need to own weapons to protect themselves from the government or are you just projecting?

These are rhetorical questions. Don't respond, it would be unfair!


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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Oh and Karma doesn't exist.

...and if it does, it doesn't happen in the current life.

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Fledz
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It's not a fair response because it doesn't live up to your prejudice? How many actual Americans have you spoken with? Do all of them seem to think they need to own weapons to protect themselves from the government or are you just projecting?

These are rhetorical questions. Don't respond, it would be unfair!


What? That was based purely on previous threads we've had before and not directed at any of you, not on any prejudice. Fuck me you're a sensitive little flower today.


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Halcyon+On+On
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So let me get this straight: You quoted my post and felt the need to clarify your original thought as well as comment on how unfair my response was, even though I made absolutely no mention of any of your specific points, and furthermore are trying to tell me that you have no prejudice whatsoever but are instead merely making a judgment based upon previous conversations and experiences that are related to the topic at hand by perspective incidence only? And also, my sarcasm adds nothing to the conversation.

Am I understanding this right?


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Fledz
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I assumed some of the stuff you posted was directed at me and I felt I had to clarify, if it wasn't then my mistake. Mainly the statistics and break ins. Clarification never hurts though.


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Old Post Oct-01-2010 00:43  Croatia
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infiniteJEST
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I am so looking forward to the post-clarification circle jerk. To relieve stress. From arguing.


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Fledz
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quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
I am so looking forward to the post-clarification circle jerk. To relieve stress. From arguing.

Shall we go clockwise or counter-clockwise?


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