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Originally posted by Ania_xox I couldn't stop watching that; she has a very pleasant speaking voice. It's almost hypnotic.

THAT is what you primarily notice in this video?!?

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^^^ Well, as I watched the video, I tried to imagine how hot she must've been 10 years ago. Then I heard the word homoeopathy and got angry

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Originally posted by Meat187 Unfortunately when research like that hits the mainstream something bad happens, as best explained by this comic:

This reminds me of the book I'm reading. Owen Flanagan, a neurobiologist and philosopher, published an article about the neural activity of Buddhist monks, saying there were some interesting patterns that deserved some attention and whatnot. Suddenly, science journalism claimed that Buddhists who think their religion "holds the secret of happiness may have been proved right by science" (this is a direct quote from "The Sunday Times"). He claims to have protested and told journalists they got the main thesis wrong but, alas, his efforts were apparently in vain.

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Originally posted by Meat187 The general public will never understand the difference between correlation and causality.

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Originally posted by Lira This could well be a possibility. I know Dan (FuzzQi) is aware of this phenomenon, but I should point out that we're often just superstitious pigeons. The lift where I live is a bit dysfunctional, and it randomly freezes after it closes it doors and doesn't move for 10 seconds or so. What did I do when it first happened? I waited and, sure enough, after 10 seconds, the lift did what it was supposed to do. So, whenever it happened again, I was fully aware of the fact that nothing I did could make that bloody metallic box go up or down. However, whenever there was someone else with me on the lift, and it froze, my companion would often do bizarre things claiming it would help the lift go back to normal. I witnessed all sorts of button pressing, door slamming, passionate praying (yes, and God apparently helped the elevator move!), and reckless hopping in that small confined space. My favourite was a crippled girl who had just one leg so she would press her back against the wall and "jump". I can't tell how much I learnt about human behaviour thanks to that glitch.

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Originally posted by Meat187 That aside, I bet given the required instrumentation I could actually prove "scientifically" that Trance makes you happy and Techno makes you depressed.

Actually, trance makes me way more melancholic than techno

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Originally posted by Lira Actually, trance makes me way more melancholic than techno

With the obvious exception of people who like this painting:

To properly asses your personality, in my study everything you say will be inverted.

Regarding the Buddhists, this is what I meant in that thread where woscar said he's getting a Philisophy degree after his engineering one to work on research like that. It's not exactly hippy pseudoscience but often a bunch of conclusions that are pretty plain (sometimes trivial, sometimes pulled out of your ass) but made to sound cool.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Regarding the Buddhists, this is what I meant in that thread where woscar said he's getting a Philisophy degree after his engineering one to work on research like that. It's not exactly hippy pseudoscience but often a bunch of conclusions that are pretty plain (sometimes trivial, sometimes pulled out of your ass) but made to sound cool.

Actually, Flanagan is very careful about his conclusions. I'm suspicious of his eudaimonic enterprise, but not because it's necessarily bad science/philosophy, but because I simply disagree with him on philosophical grounds (whereas, science wise, there's little if anything I can criticise).

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Originally posted by Lira (whereas, science wise, there's little if anything I can criticise).

I just read over "Buddhist persons and Eudaimonia" and can't actually locate any science there. It all is one huge discussion that sounds like an advertisment for Buddhism and some talk about other people's work, where he carefully tries to relativize everything and say... well, almost nothing. Maybe you know about other work by him, but in that text I find mostly philosophy and hardly any science by Flanagan himself.

Maybe he wants to write 5 more books on how everything is relative and can not be compared before finally reaching a hypothesis and tries to verify it in a practical experiment.

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Originally posted by Meat187 I just read over "Buddhist persons and Eudaimonia" and can't actually locate any science there. It all is one huge discussion that sounds like an advertisment for Buddhism and some talk about other people's work, where he carefully tries to relativize everything and say... well, almost nothing. Maybe you know about other work by him, but in that text I find mostly philosophy and hardly any science by Flanagan himself.

I'm now reading "The Really Hard Problem: Meaning in a Material World", and he draws some conclusions from neuroscience. Unfortunately, however, you read the distilled version of what I don't like about his work: the Graeco-Buddhist syncretism that seems to permeate his philosophy. I'm highly indebted to both traditions for some of my current views, but he seems to be stuck in the traditional canon.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Maybe he wants to write 5 more books on how everything is relative and can not be compared before finally reaching a hypothesis and tries to verify it in a practical experiment.

Actually, he's quite the non-relativist.

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i think it's totally valid, look at stuff thats out there already...noetic science, thats even a crazier concept...i meditate daily, practice Taoism, this is all the same general idea...being positive and sending out good vibes/energy influences you and your environment/other people. I haven't had a negative thought for months and i really don't have any negative events in my life either...stuff kinda happens to just work out in my favor usually, i find myself thinking conversations and events, then having them happen within a couple days. the mind is so powerful and we have idea what it's capable of considering how little we use of it...

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All kinds of rofl

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i exude negative energy whenever fucking retards buy into bullshit. so, your ignorant optimism is producing negative impacts for third parties. well done you stupid selfish fucks.