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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay a credible audience is one that pays.

Of course, and that applies no matter who they are paying to see. I meant an audience for artists with more artistic integrity.

Yes it's just house music. But done well it is more than the sum of its parts. Obviously a lot of DJs act like they're God and it's BS. But there are just as many who keep it in perspective. The former just get more attention.

the thing is...defining artist integrity can be a totally subjective issue. Most offer fans want to suck his/her/it dick....we tell them that he/his/her is so bad technically, but they don't give a shit.

i'm amazed i can type right now, go habs go...i'll join in demain

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quoi?

im bored at work so i'll jump in

i have to agree with jay, no matter what music your playing a +/-1 BMP in change IS NOT going to build/throw your set, NOBODY will even notice

if your talking about a +5/-5 then completly agree.

I may not be as experienced as some, but certainly been to a couple of parties, including a blackout night, over the past 6+ years, and what your saying martin is true, but take into account that out of 100 ppl (maybe not at your gigs) 5 ppl really feel the whole effect, or skill or wtv you want to call it, truly notice a really good mix, etc

at the end of the day, if your in an afterhours club, your on something....if not 98.7 % are....

people just go to have a good time, dance and take drugs....be honest Martin, if you did a black out event from 10-3 with no drugs, how many ppl would go, or any gig for any DJ for that matter....

Sad but true, its part of the culture, scene

i think a good DJ is a person who builds a good set with the right story, and can mix decently... ppl can write an essay on everything else, but when it comes down to it thats the just of it.

your there to make ppl move and enjoy their night...i dont care if your using 7000$ equip or 500$...cause how you build a set/build mood no equip can duplicate

I never said somebody can notice a 1 bpm change, I said I did.

And I stand my position that 2 bpm can change the overall vibe.

Also true that most people won't notice anything. I am not saying otherwise.

The only thing that you can notice while you are all night on drugs as an audience is what feels right, and what feels wrong.

When a set is nicely done with the right mood and complexity, what you don't notice doesn't mean as no impact on your brain.

According to webers law(JND) the human ear and brain would notice a change(unless you have hearing problems), however would you react to that change is a different story...

So we have solved the mystery of WILL THEY NOTICE? cause everybody's brain would notice, but people consciousness is altered by drugs/alcohol whatever.. You will react to the faster bpm by moving faster, consciously or not... And even 1 bpm will change something... Yea most people wont be able to tell what bpm it is or what is happening.. People have preferences and that is what matters in the end... If you are used to listening to pounding 130+bpm techno you will notice a difference when u walk into a room thats playing the same techno 2-3 bpm lower..

Anyway it's my fucking night and I will play at 115 bpm if I feel like it.

Case closed ;-)

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Anyway it's my fucking night and I will play at 115 bpm if I feel like it. Case closed ;-)

Where are those old techno sets!

I deleted them because Krinker and Jay say they were bad.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal I deleted them because Krinker and Jay say they were bad.

Actually

God fucking Awfull is closer to reality

but who's keeping the score really :P

In all honesty 2 things
1) how the fuck did this conversation turn into a BPM debate ?
and
2) I really Wish I could attend a black out, maybe some time ! !

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Anyway it's my fucking night and I will play at 115 bpm if I feel like it. Case closed ;-)

You should!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Originally posted by KrinKer 1) how the fuck did this conversation turn into a BPM debate ?

Someone asked if there will be 130 bpm, Creator said ho he doesn't like 130 BPM. I asked why and after that Boom!

bpm?

boobs per minute?

lets get back on target

MONOLOC!