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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well I don't own much of it because I don't think most of it is very good. And such is the nature of pop music that there isn't really an underground pop scene full of great pop I haven't heard that, music that does pop in a way different to the pop I've heard on the radio.

Yes, but that's not the point. Assuming you listen to EDM more then you listen to pop, there might be other reasons why you personally have high playcounts for pop(ish) songs. Doesn't beat the theory, but i dunno, something about it just doesn't feel right to me. It's too arbitrary and there'd be too much exeptions.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB But then again there are also repetitive tracks which are very old and still get played over and over again, or not?

Hmm. I think for instance the best song of the last decade was voted to be Coldplay - Clocks. Which is a lot more repetative, but i can hardly say it's more so then most dance music. But i agree that the general notion of most popular music being unrepetative is shakey.

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Originally posted by Seandroid IMHO I think it's the opposite. The more repetitive tracks (to a degree) generally get stuck in your brain easier, provided they're done well. David Guetta's GRRRR (and before you criticize me.... listen to it... it's amazing, it's tech house and there aren't any vocals, it came out of absolutely fucking nowhere) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJGodT_tiHI&ob=av2e for instance, has like 70 plays in my iTunes library, Pleasurekraft's Tarantula is #1 most played and Deadmau5's Arguru is 2nd most played, and both are fairly repetitive tracks. Other tracks that are up there are Pryda - Aftermath, The End, Human Behaviour, Melo (I could keep going) My favourite Tiesto track is Traffic which is extremely repetitive. Now if I look at other tracks that are less repetitive, like Black is the New Yellow by Super 8 and Tab, it's a great track but I can't listen to it over and over again, and 2099 by Leon Bolier and Marcus Schossow, same thing. It might just depend on the person.

We should listen to this guy. Apparently he knows good music and cool abs.

I find this topic quite interesting, something I've given some thought to in the past. Just a few weeks ago I was listening to come funk tracks that got super groovy but only lasted 2 or 3 minutes. So as a result I figured that I'll listen to them each twice in a row to get my fix before moving on, and equated that with the fact that most often the tracks I enjoy are over 6 minutes because that gives the song ample time to fully expand on its theme and not feel rushed, and yet fulfills me enough not to hit the repeat button instantly. Why not expand and elaborate on the idea brilliant idea you've possibly taken lots of time to imagine and create. I even considered editing some of these tracks by simply playing them twice so I would have a longer single track for dj sets and for my own convenience in listening.

It was quite the coincidence when someone actually brought up "roygbiv". I have specifically wished that "Roygbiv" was at least 5 minutes long. Otherwise I listen to it 2 to 3 times everytime I want to hear it to get my fix. Why not just make it one constantly flowing track, perhaps with a subtle variation on the hook in the middle and expand upon that idea before bringing it back to its climax for a second time? Or you don't even hafta sinply bring back the climax a second but, but rather keep on varying the original idea. It seems a waste to come up with a simple and clever track like roygbiv and not do more with it.

Even the pop songs I enjoy I would rather them be longer and unrushed feeling so I feel fulfilled when the track is over. I enjoy repetition and subtle changes. Of course if I do not like the main idea of the song, I wouldn't be listening to it in the first place, so why not extend it and do more with it? I mean come on, isn't that why most of us don't like radio edits of dance tracks. they feel rushed and we don't get to hear the layers come in as slowly.

Take Eple by Royksopp for example. There is a 3 minute version and a 6 minute version. I prefer the latter, otherwise I would just got thoguh the annoying of hitting repeat and having a gap between tracks instead of just having one nice track. As well there is a 6 minute version of Madonna's holiday with very few vocals, but rather constantly varies thei original hook. Both have their place...

I extended tracks often using Wavelab to get the climax a second time.
Often those were radio versions or versions used in a mix.

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