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Originally posted by Raphie Some new Apogee products, like Duet are the exception together with Euphonics, rest MOTU and Logic are available for Win. In general Windows is the leading platform what developers develop for first. Also if you really want to know how a Mac performs with Cubase? read the Mac section on Cubase.net

Cool

Link me up to that Windows Logic then. I won't have to buy a Mac to use it now.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad the problem is that many of those so called outdated plugins are standard tools and some of the most used plugins.

That's a shortcoming of the 64-bit sequencers which haven't matured yet :-). The 32-bit vst wrappers aren't always what they're supposed to be unfortunately. With a 32 bit sequencer one should not have any problems whatsoever.

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Originally posted by tehlord Link me up to that Windows Logic then. I won't have to buy a Mac to use it now.

Hehehe. That would be V5.5

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Originally posted by Storyteller Hehehe. That would be V5.5

Fully aware

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Whenever I see these threads it seems like those questions people ask to make themselves feel less guilty about something. Like "Oh one cigarette won't kill me" or "Just a few beers is fine isn't it?"

You clearly want a MAC. Hell if we're honest, all of us have at least thought about buying one.

Go for it.

You only live once. Worst case scenario sell it on if you hate it. Better resale value by far init?

BOSH!

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You know, William Blake said... uh, nothing is lost. Nothing is lost and I... I really believe that, we only move on...

Don't think there is better or worse, just pick what you fancy. For me my i7 950 12GB DDR-3 triple channel with 2x SATA-III SSD, with an ATI 5770, in a LIAN LI case, working on a Dell 30" LCD @ 2560 * 1600 gives me flawless performance.

I am sure your wife will allow to sell the car in order to get a simmilar specced and performing MAC system

Regarding Logic, that's typically Apple, buy a vendor, kill the multiplatform, done it with Apogee, done it with Logic.

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People usually want macs because they are completely stupid and follow the trends and think that Mac is the best to game, the best to chat on facebook and that it will dress him on hangover mornings. But to do this you just need a Pc.

The exception is when you want your Mac to "work" which should be the case of most people here who produce, logic and the hardware management is a reason to go for a Mac. But if you want to play Call of Duty buy a pro graphic card and don't waste your money. Even the name says you something PC = Personal Computer , personal things, amusement. Mac is for more serious things, the old macintosh was genuinely built for working.

Frustrated?

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This is the biggest pile of shit ivé read in a long time.
don't want to bust your bubble but 97% of corporate citizens are using the windows platform over Apple (at least according to (Gartner) for creative people both are equal, Apple as a brand just spends more marketing money to make you feel special

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos People usually want macs because they are completely stupid and follow the trends and think that Mac is the best to game, the best to chat on facebook and that it will dress him on hangover mornings. But to do this you just need a Pc. The exception is when you want your Mac to "work" which should be the case of most people here who produce, logic and the hardware management is a reason to go for a Mac. But if you want to play Call of Duty buy a pro graphic card and don't waste your money. Even the name says you something PC = Personal Computer , personal things, amusement. Mac is for more serious things, the old macintosh was genuinely built for working.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos People usually want macs because they are completely stupid and follow the trends and think that Mac is the best to game, the best to chat on facebook and that it will dress him on hangover mornings. But to do this you just need a Pc.

Thats about the most ignorant and stereotypical statement I think I've ever seen.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos Even the name says you something PC = Personal Computer , personal things, amusement. Mac is for more serious things, the old macintosh was genuinely built for working.

Really? So if a PC is for "personal things" or "amusement" as you state, then why do Apple platforms have so little market penetration in the business sector? Last time I checked, Wintel machines (or "PC" as you call it) are clearly the dominant platform in enterprise across the globe.

(As an aside, one major reason is lack of enterprise management features on the OS X platform, but that is for another discussion.)

Its a little bit short sighted to assume that the term "PC" means that this platform should only be used for "personal things". In any case, the term "PC" was coined in a time when the vast majority of computers in the world were timesharing, centralized mainframe and minicomputers, so the term was meant to refer to a machine that did not fit that classification. It has nothing to do with implied usage.

Bottom line is use Apple because you like OS X, use Apple because you want to use applications only available for the OS X platform (like Logic), use Apple because you want to use hardware specifically developed for the platform, use Apple because you like working with a well developed UNIX workstation platform. If none of these things apply to you, then get a PC with a fairly robust hardware profile and the fantastic Windows 7. It's all about personal preference and that should the the major deciding factor on which platform to invest your money into.

Use the right tools for the job.

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Originally posted by Raphie This is the biggest pile of shit iv� read in a long time. don't want to bust your bubble but 97% of corporate citizens are using the windows platform over Apple (at least according to (Gartner) for creative people both are equal, Apple as a brand just spends more marketing money to make you feel special

You're talking absolute bullshit raphie.

I've worked as a studio engineer both in Europe and the USA for last 10+ years and have yet to see a PC based system in any professional studio environment. Apart form composers own preference (and even then it's still 10% of them who use pc), mac is the standard. Period.

Guys making edm in their bedroom don't count.

Corporate citizens and PC? yes. Because MS office works fine on it (I jest)

Audio/Media/broadcast? - mac in every instance.

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Originally posted by Fledz The components in iMacs are the same as many PCs these days. Intel boards from the same factories, GPUs from the same factories, firewire and USB chipsets from the same factories. Need I go on?

Complete Bollocks. please do go on. In fact I implore you to prove me wrong and I';ll happily concede you're right.

So build me a machine for for $1100 (which is what i paid for imac) with the following criteria.

1 x 21.5 inch backlit (super high quality) LED screen
1 x I3 3.2ghz
4 gb quality ram
500g Hardrive
Double layer suprdrive
ATI radeon HD4670
Good major brand motherboard with ample FW USB etc.
PSU
Decent On board sound

Now here's the catch. You have to make it completely fucking silent. Aside form the screen glowing at me, I actually cannot that the imac that I'm using to type is actually on, even if I put my ear up close.

So that means ompletely silent PSU, Silent drive enclosures (because the internals of the mac act as that) and no fans at all.

Now thrown in a really nice looking case, an expensive keyboard and mouse and Win7 Pro. oh and free shipping for all of it.

Now bill your time to spec it and order at lets a say a very cheap $30 an hour.

Now tell me if you can come in under $1100 (and that imac spec is 6 months old now so i would expect newer compnents).

Last edited by DJ RANN on Nov-15-2010 at 20:48