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Originally posted by Mad for Brad when it comes to EDM, it is all about production and groove. You can make a good career without ever having a single chord. Your time is better spent on learning how to make things groove and work on a dance floor than spending time on theory. This is from someone that knows everything there is to know about theory. It just isn't important nor salient in EDM.

#Truth.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad have to disagree there. The best groove was on the track that had the lowest votes. Of course we aren't just judging that as it is quite subjective but I suppose from my experience as a studio player, I can confidently tell which one has the better groove and why.

I'm assuming you are talking about #5, which I thought was number two. But it had that melo that kind of fucked it up.

I don't think you need any kind of musical experience to tell when something is grooving. People tend to like music that grooves, ************ of genre.

Sound design and mixing can contribute to groove, but when it comes to dance music...the final metric is to see how much people want to dance to it. A really sick dance track should be extremely easy to dance to.(Kysora!)

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

no but a musician can tell you why it is grooving. A played drums for a long time and was a studio player. The things you study are really how to groove. How to play behind the beat, in front of the beat, how to keep your snare back but have your hihats forward. When you are listening to groove in such detail, you just learn about rhythm and how it works. It is really a game of tension were the push and pull creates something great.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KGQK5m_aMI

one of my fav drummers, used to play with pfunk. He is very aware of why he is grooving.

Check this out

Chad smith from red hot chilly peppers

The beat is so behind but it just makes it really fat and groovin.Its amazing that nothing else slows down. That is the hard part. Pulling in one direction but not letting the entire band slow down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t66chYSdUOg

For those that don't know how to play, i've mentioned this many times but there are so many damn groove templates you can easily rip from stylus. The best tool ever made.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Nov-21-2010 at 01:38

I got into producing after downloading a cracked version of Acid 3.0. I wanted to DJ but couldn't afford decks just yet, and that was a way to mix tracks together to make mix cd's for my friends.

There is a massive learning curve to transcend when you first run these programs...the good news is, once I learned my first one, all the others came naturally. In other words, If I were to move on to Cubase or Ableton or (insert your fav sequencer here), I could pick up on it really fast and be using it within minutes because of my previous experience with other sequencers.

As far as the topic of song writing vs. engineering, Mad For Brad is right on the money. If you have functioning ears, they will tell you when something is off in the mix.

Some sequencers even have built-in scale highlighting to show you which notes work best with others, and which notes to add to your root note to make it major, minor, 3rds & 5ths, etc.

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Originally posted by brucelee6783 Some sequencers even have built-in scale highlighting to show you which notes work best with others, and which notes to add to your root note to make it major, minor, 3rds & 5ths, etc.

yikes. The problem is that there is not one note that doesn't work with any other. It is a spectrum from complete dissonance to consonance. I remember doing a trance tutorial where I played the complete chromatic scale in a progression that was pretty common place for trance. That is the problem with theory. Unless you really learn it, it boxes you in.

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Yeah, it really shouldn't be considered a list of rules to follow.

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