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Zak McKracken
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i see where this is going. the result is the same, its just that when i put the signature to 3/4 im not really putting the second on the second and the third on the third. im actually really complex lol.

as i now understand it:

3/4:
x---x---x---

12/8:
x--x--x--x--


same length "bars" or loop as i call it, thats why i couldnt see the difference before.

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Looney4Clooney
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no
3/4
x-x-x-
6/8
x--x--
12/8
x--x--x--x--

for 12/8 is basically 2 bars worth of 3/4 but again they aren't the same. 12/8 and 3/4 really have no relation.

ie

X-x-x-X-x-x-
x--x--x--x--


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Zak McKracken
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fuck it. lol. im bored. i get the results i want in both settings.
it doesnt make sense and it doesnt matter to me in my simple productions.


i think i heard both mixed in a orbital track during the intro. it was interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n2mfPTZXmM

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tell me what this is then?

X--x--x--X--x--x--X--x--x--

9/3?

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9/8

3/4 with triplets under the quarter note


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i totaly dont understand whats eight in there. nothing is eight.

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Perhaps? Some FSOL tracks are in weird time signatures, but they hardly class as "dance tunes". As a non-musician I don't really understand time signatures, I certainly suck at hearing them.

This thread reminds me of the time my friend and I decided (possibly while drunk) to remix Dolly Parton - 9 to 5 in a 9/5 time signature. We tried recalibrating Guitar Pro but got the message "Error - Incorrect Keyboarding" so we turned to FL, which was more accomodating of our impossible demands. We quickly abandoned the remix idea, but did make an extremely funky beat in whatever the fuck FL thinks 9/5 time is. I think he's still got the file somewhere, might try and upload it for the lulz.


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that is because 9 / 5 is not a signature. WHy is this so fucking hard to understand. It is like grade 3 division when you have the pies and shit.

the top is how many
the bottom is what denomination

9/5 means 9 fifth notes per bar, beautiful except there is no such thing as a fifth note.


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We were well aware of that. My friend is actually a good musician, and we were trying to remix Dolly Parton, for fuck's sake. Do you really think we were either serious or sober?

FL still gave us "9/5" anyway. My friend did figure out what it really was later on, but what I do know is that the beat was ridiculously funky.


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no it didn't. YOu don't seem to understand that it isn't possible given the conventions of naming time signatures in western music.


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quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
as i now understand it:

3/4:
x---x---x---

12/8:
x--x--x--x--


Technically you're right but to clarify, you're subdividing by 16th notes in the first example, and 8th notes in the second. Don't get those confused. He only corrected you because if you're going to subdivide both examples by the same note, 3/4 would be:

x-x-x-

quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
tell me what this is then?

X--x--x--X--x--x--X--x--x--

9/3?


Uh, 9/3? You're saying there's nine 3rd notes in that? The hell is a 3rd note?

Each X is an eighth note. There are nine X's there. Hence, 9/8. Nine eighth notes. It's really not complicated.

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