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Zharen
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Why? Because I want to hold the South accountable for polluting the South? LOL okay...

Like I said before, I considered the first leak an accident of massive proportions. But to have a second one not even a year afterward, well there just seems to be some buffoonry at work here.

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Jackson
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We should respect your opinion.

But our collective opinion of you is that you're severely retarded.


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Zharen
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We should respect your opinion.

But our collective opinion of you is that you're severely retarded.


You're free to believe whatever the Hell you want. If you want to believe that it's your country who was at fault for destroying the gulf, go ahead.

Old Post Mar-21-2011 08:50  United States
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Zharen
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Oh yeah...



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FuzzQi
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Is this payback to the dolphins?


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Brandt Slater
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Some progress is better than no progress



Gee, that's surprising.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-05-...ploration-spill



The offshore rigs you are referring too have been around since the 50' and 60's, at a time where many believed offshore oil drilling was a good thing. I'm sure that once the South reduces the gulf into a cesspool of filthy black mush, CA will close down the rest of these as well.



Some of those rigs you're referring too are slightly newer than you think. Besides the oil rigs, a good quarter of Long Beach and other neighboring cities have oil farms. Are you gonna say that these should be closed down as well? You do realize that the State of California and the cities in which these wells pump on is revenue. If you were to close them, what exactly is your plan on future employment for all the men and women who will become jobless? Last time I checked, California has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country and a debt no one can seem to figure on how to get under control.

Also, please tell me something. A few years ago, a natural gas company came to Long Beach in search of property, to start refining natural gas. The property in question was Terminal Island. Or what some people refer to as the old naval shipyards. Were you one of those individuals who voted NO. If you did, you are just as guilty as the oil tycoons you dislike.

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Is this payback to the dolphins?


Specific term is "porpoise" & yes; everything is following as planned. By 2012 we shall have trance back.


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Sushipunk
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I'm finding this weird, Zharen. I've seen you posting here for years and years now. Never, though, have I seen this kind of retardery from you.

I just want to make sure:

You think that it's the fault of the [majority of?] people living in the southern states of the US (around the Gulf of Mexico), that there are multiple oil spills in the last year. It's the "southern" peoples fault, not the multinational company.

All the while, there have been offshore drilling rigs operating off of California all the while. But that's ok, because the Cali rigs have been there for ages, despite an oil spill in 1969 (the Californians obviously learned their lesson after that... oh wait).

What's wrong with you


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Zharen
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Some of those rigs you're referring too are slightly newer than you think. Besides the oil rigs, a good quarter of Long Beach and other neighboring cities have oil farms. Are you gonna say that these should be closed down as well?


Yes. Oil has been holding this country back for decades. I will not miss the giant rigs and oil refineries that continue to pollute this world and make only a select few wealthy while the rest suffer. If some have to lose their positions in order to accomplish that then so be it. Why would you still want them to operate? Would you like a mega quake to hit and take out the rigs, causing massive slicks in the Pacific coast? You're only fooling yourself if you don't think that's possible.

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You do realize that the State of California and the cities in which these wells pump on is revenue. If you were to close them, what exactly is your plan on future employment for all the men and women who will become jobless? Last time I checked, California has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country and a debt no one can seem to figure on how to get under control.


It's not my job to find jobs. Go ask Governor Brown and the State Legislature on what they're doing to find jobs for all of us. I'm sure they're working very hard on that.

But hypothetically speaking, if I were in charge, I'd probably start by putting higher taxes on corporations who choose to outsource jobs to the rest of the world, while providing incentives to others who do hire locally. I'd also remove a bunch of these silly regulations that makes it hard for smaller businesses to operate in CA, encouraging small business workers to bring their operations back into this state.

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Also, please tell me something. A few years ago, a natural gas company came to Long Beach in search of property, to start refining natural gas. The property in question was Terminal Island. Or what some people refer to as the old naval shipyards. Were you one of those individuals who voted NO. If you did, you are just as guilty as the oil tycoons you dislike.


I wouldn't know anything about it. It's not my business to keep up in the affairs of you Socalers. And I certainly didn't vote on any such operation.

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Jackson
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Originally posted by Zharen
You're free to believe whatever the Hell you want. If you want to believe that it's your country who was at fault for destroying the gulf, go ahead.


I think you got bored with your life and decided to troll. There is no other explanation, well played


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Brandt Slater
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quote:
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Yes. Oil has been holding this country back for decades. I will not miss the giant rigs and oil refineries that continue to pollute this world and make only a select few wealthy while the rest suffer. If some have to lose their positions in order to accomplish that then so be it. Why would you still want them to operate? Would you like a mega quake to hit and take out the rigs, causing massive slicks in the Pacific coast? You're only fooling yourself if you don't think that's possible.


So you like watching fellow Californians lose their jobs. WOW! Talk about an arrogant prick.

Mega quake. If one of these were to hit California, an oil platform would be the least of your worries.

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Zharen
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I'm finding this weird, Zharen. I've seen you posting here for years and years now. Never, though, have I seen this kind of retardery from you.


Guess I finally got tired of all the bullshit that's going on in the world and here in the US. The main problem I have in this country especially is that no one wants to be held accountable for their own mistakes. No one wants to own up and take the blame. Instead they point their fingers at everyone else, disregard the truth, and then try to sue others once they blow the whistle on them. It's gotten to a point where it's truly become sad and laughable.

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I just want to make sure:

You think that it's the fault of the [majority of?] people living in the southern states of the US (around the Gulf of Mexico), that there are multiple oil spills in the last year. It's the "southern" peoples fault, not the multinational company.


*Sigh* You're not listening to me. I've already admitted that I did look at the Gulf Coast Oil Spill of 2010 as an accident. A massive accident that brought the entire Gulf coast ecosystem to its knees. I really thought that the South had learned its lesson from that. That with the moratorium that was in place, they would take steps necessary to remove these oil rigs from their shores and commit more time and effort in repairing their damaged region. But that's not what happened. The minute the moratorium was lifted, it was back to business as usual all over again. Now these guys are making the same mistakes again. It's like they're hell bent on taking out the gulf coast and all its inhabitants out for good. The Southern people need to seriously wake the fuck up and retake their shores back from these international companies, and if Obama and the federal government cry foul, then they should take it to the courts. Do something. But again, they're not. Therefore, I have no reason but to believe that the people in the South truly do not care about their environment. Therefore, I will no longer feel sorry for them once it becomes polluted beyond repair and they manage to destroy every other profitable industry that supplies them with their careers and their means to provide for themselves and their families.

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All the while, there have been offshore drilling rigs operating off of California all the while. But that's ok, because the Cali rigs have been there for ages, despite an oil spill in 1969 (the Californians obviously learned their lesson after that... oh wait).

What's wrong with you


Yeah, because obviously I was around in 1969. I'm not for deep water oil drilling here either. I would love to see these places closed down as well. There have been a recent string of nasty earthquakes all stemming from the Ring of Fire in the Pacific region. First Chile, then New Zealand, now Japan. California is long overdue for another shake, and I'm afraid we're gonna get fucked up the ass big time, perhaps in this year, perhaps the next. What are we going to do if a mega quake seriously damages one of those rigs and oil comes gushing out uncontrollably? We'll have another oceanic disaster, and industries vital to the shores will be damaged the most, while big oil walks away scott free. At a time when this state is already hurt badly by massive unemployment and ballooning deficits. And I guess I'll have to point the finger and laugh at them as well, although this time I will be more saddened by the damage done to my own state. This oil addiction is seriously keeping us back from progressing as a nation. With the string of wars being fought for it and resources rapidly running out, I fear it will be our collective undoing. And all I can do is watch all of this madness unfold, desperately trying to speak out against it, even if it won't do any bit of good. I hope that answers your question.

Oh and dubstep. Never have I seen a generation of EDM fans become so dumbed down by that wobbly dribble. I wish it was 2003 all over again.

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