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Halcyon+On+On
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Those bastards! You warned them, too. You warned them that if their innocuous yet unorthodox criticism came to execution, you'd do some execution of your own! But they didn't listen, and now the blood is on their hands! Ullaulalualuaualuaulaulualulaulaulaulaulaulualua.


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jonSun
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Im curious to know how a flooded stinkhole half way across the world heard about some hick burning a book before Americans heard about it.


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srussell0018
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igottaknow
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Im curious to know how a flooded stinkhole half way across the world heard about some hick burning a book before Americans heard about it.

the curse of twitter

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Zharen
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Registered: Mar 2003
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Just to clarify from msnbc

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Unlike the worldwide outcry that greeted the pastor’s plan to burn 200 copies of the Koran on Sept. 11 — which he ultimately abandoned — the event last week at the 50-member church was largely ignored by the news media. As of 2 p.m. on Friday, the video of the Koran’s burning on the church Web site had been viewed only 1,500 times.


So you see, the media was purposely trying not to report it, but since the church filmed their actions it still leaked out. This is not the media's fault, this is pastor Jones' fault pure and simple.

Also, to those suggesting that we somehow make it illegal here to burn sacred texts to avoid future situations like these, I can honestly tell you that doing that will do exactly opposite of what you're trying to prevent.

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srussell0018
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If he had burned 200 copies, would they have been 200 times as offended and killed 200 times as many people?


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MrJiveBoJingles
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If he had burned 200 copies, would they have been 200 times as offended and killed 200 times as many people?

Maybe if he had spread out the burnings. Say burn one copy per week. Every week a new outrage!

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Zharen
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Looks like Pastor Jones is just getting started here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ad-78-hurt.html

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Despite clear evidence that his actions have led to multiple murders and widespread violence in the Middle East, controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones has vowed to step up his provocative campaign against Islam.

The radical pastor said that he was considering putting Islamic prophet Mohammed 'on trial' for his next 'day of judgement' publicity stunt.

His last, in which he oversaw the burning of a copy of the Koran after a six-hour mock trial, has been directly responsible for a wave of violence that began last night and has left 30 people dead and more than 150 injured.

A second day of violence in Afghanistan today saw at least ten deaths, 78 injured and at least 17 arrests as protesters clash with security forces in Kandahar.

There were also reports of attempted suicide attacks on a U.S. military base in Kabul, but these were not directly linked to Mr Jones's actions.

But the vilified pastor remains unrepentant about his actions, and has even hinted that he will take his provocative stance further.

He said in an interview today: 'It is definitely a consideration to stage a trial on the life of Mohammed in the future.'

Such a move would trigger further violent protests in the Muslim world - even in more moderate Islamic states.

But Mr Jones shows no signs of backing down, refusing to admit the violence is his fault, and apparently proud of his actions.

In an interview at his Dove World Outreach Center today, the pastor at least admitted that he was saddened by the Afghan attacks - but added that he would burn the Koran again if given the chance.

He told the New York Times: 'It was intended to stir the pot; if you don’t shake the boat, everyone will stay in their complacency.

'Emotionally, it’s not all that easy. People have tried to make us responsible for the people who are killed. It’s unfair and somewhat damaging.

'Did our action provoke them? Of course. Is it a provocation that can be justified? Is it a provocation that should lead to death?

'When lawyers provoke me, when banks provoke me, when reporters provoke me, I can’t kill them. That would not fly.'

It is not surprising that Mr Jones should mention lawyers, banks and reporters as his tormentors.

The pastor, whose church membership has dwindled and who is a hate figure in his own community, is also near broke.





Pfft who needs 200 copies? Let's go after the main guy Mohammed himself!

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MrJiveBoJingles
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His last, in which he oversaw the burning of a copy of the Koran after a six-hour mock trial, has been directly responsible for a wave of violence that began last night and has left 30 people dead and more than 150 injured.

Well, I would say that the people who actually committed the violence were "directly responsible" for it.

Muslims are not robots. They can choose whether to murder non-Muslims, even if a Koran gets burned somewhere.

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Domesticated
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No one in this thread seems to have considered the possibility that the book burning is an excuse for people to do killing they already want to do, but cannot do so without consequences. Religious reasons allow them to get away with it.

This case seems very similar to the one several years ago of the Danish cartoonists who published images of Muhammad. That event sparked riots all over the Middle East, but in the end it essentially proven to be a giant, orchestrated maneuver.


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Jake Benson
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He should be charged with their Murders...He's just scum, plain and simple.


Let's charge Americans every time a stupid moron in a rural area of a shitty Muslim country goes apeshit and starts killing people. Because third-world radicals are not responsible for their own actions, Americans are.

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