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| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
standard comes from experience, contrary to what was learned (that people are good). I wasn't saying we remain indoctrinated (otherwise people would remain good). Hence my beautiful imagery of a cracking layer through which you can peer through, and be peered at through...
I was merely offering an alternative to the people saying people are good, which is laughable. Fighting fire with fire and whatnot 
alsooooo: What I was really saying was if you assume people are bad you're more likely to be pleasantly suprised, than if you assume they're good, which will lead to perpetual dissapointment. |
Quite on the contrary.
From an a priori perspective, it makes much more sense to assume we're neutral until proven otherwise, kicking both the warm and fuzzy optimism and the jaded misanthropic pessimism to the curb as hasty generalisations. All the upfucketry present in the world can be a sign that we're terrible just as the awesome things people have done throughout history show we're terrific, so that's a dead-end.
If, however, you stick to the facts, and read about moral psychology and primatology, a much more complicated picture emerges: we're extremely cooperative as social animals, and cheating often comes as a way to "make things even" when we feel we've been given the shaft for a reason or another. Psychopaths are a famous exception because they lack the necessary empathy to make cooperation successfully work but, in general, there's an overarching sense of moral we have (even if we can't agree upon the rules) because of how essential these systems are in social life. Frans de Waal has given us a very interesting account of how morality may have evolved, and there's also a trilogy compiled by Walter Sinnott-Armstrong about moral psychology that explore these issues quite well.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i wish i were more like you sometimes. but then some dickhead pisses me off and i remember why im not. |
I'm often disappointed myself 
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