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Twig
Suspended User
Registered: May 2002
Location: Belfast / Sheffield
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you're gay
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Aug-20-2002 15:47
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sothis
Cyborg Queen

Registered: Aug 2001
Location: seattle, washington
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well shit, i go to bed, come back in the morning and 3 pages have sprung out of this!
| quote: | | i happen to be chinese, and usually i dont get fussy about racial slurs, but why would u censor out the african slur and leave the chinese/asian slur there? |
i didnt yo.. tranceaddict automatically did. i hope you dont think i was personally trying to offend peopl ethat are chinese.... because my whole point of the post was that i dont use those words, ever. i was trying to make a point.
id continue on but it looks like proxi and others are doing a damn good job without me having to step in again.
word to cortexbomb, who just said exactly what ive been trying to say since response 1 (tho he said it a little nicer )
| quote: | | I can understand the fact that a lot of people have grown up with gay being used, and that breaking out of the habit doesn't seem like it's worth the effort, but I still don't agree with it. The usage, like any other deragatory slang, *does* show disrespect whether you intend it to or not; and by continuing to use it you *will* appear to be something that I don't think a lot of you are, ignorant. |
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Aug-20-2002 16:22
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tiesto14
Let The Music Play

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City
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| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Proximus
Well, in a way, it IS pathetic. you see, having a phobia means you have an irrational fear of smth. And irrational means you don't have a legitimate reason to fear it. Therefore still fearing it, after you've been told there's nothing to be afraid of, is pathetic 
How mean is that huh 
See, I'm slightly afraid of flying. Aerophobia is actually a rational fear, as flying isn't rational for a human being. However, flying in an aircraft is perfectly safe, so, if I still have Aerophobia after I've been explained how incredibly safe flying is, I develop a phobia. An irrational fear of flying. 
Anyhow, the word pathetic can be interpreted in several ways I believe.
Pathetic can mean you feel sorry for that person.
Pathetic can also mean you think that person IS a sorry-ass 
As for homophobes, to me the second option counts. How irrational can a fear be!! You see, the classic homophobe is a person that is actually a homo him/her self , but (due to various reasons) is too afraid to admit it! Why would you be afraid of revealing your true identity!
Secondly, no gay person will just jump on you and rape you, so that's where the fear is irrational too! See, being a homo isn't contageous! Speaking of which..it isn't even a disease! It's who you are!
But still..if you want to be afraid of people that are differently...suit yourself. Just, for the sake of human intelligence and respect, keep it to yourself |
i am NOT taking sides here.....but i was reading through this thread...and what Miss P said above is brilliant....i never thought of phobias in that way....VERY WELL said...if we had karma u would get ++++++KK........anyway i will leave u guys to argue..
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Aug-20-2002 16:35
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Nadi
Not quite an addict
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Los Angeles, Californa,
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| quote: | Originally posted by CortexBomb
A lot of gay people will laugh stuff like this off, but I think most of them, when you get right down to it, *are* bothered my it, but either start using the terms themselves, or feign indifference so they don't "cause problems" or what-have-you with their mates.
Just my 2 cents on the matter... |
While I can't say from personal experience, it would seem logical to me that they woudnt need to feign indifference. In todays world, were you can still get beat up, or moked for being gay, coming out of the closet so to speak seems to suggest that they don't need to conform to others. Additionally my gay freinds happened to come over right as I was typing my last post in this thread last night so we discussed it a bit. From what I understand the general consensus is that because people don't refer to them as gay(at least in a derogatory manner), it doesn't bother them or most other homosexuals, as it simply doesn't refer to homosexuals most of the time. If you asked 99% of the people who use gay as a derogatory term they'll say that they have nothing against homosexuals, and it's a slang term for stupid or something similar.
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Aug-20-2002 17:08
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