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Strike
Mo Wax



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Markham, Ontario

i remember the first time i heard sasha & digweed...
i thought...wtf?! what's all the hype around these guys..they suck!
then my taste in music started changing, and i started listening to stuff that's more chilled. I bought Sasha's album when it came out, and I can't get enough of it! I'm still not a progressive addict tho, but i guess it's a start

Old Post Aug-24-2002 15:57  Canada
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T_2199
life on mars ?



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: An der schönen Stadt am Main (Frankfurt)
Re: Stepping Stones.

quote:
Originally posted by laird
The ultimate destination if you love music will be Classical. You won't agree with me but I bet you in 20-30 years time some of you will be heavily into Wagner, Beethoven etc. Simply because it's the most complex and sophisticated music out there.

Classical music lovers look down on EVERYBODY else.
Perhaps quite rightly.


Pls some1 kill me if this happens to me


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Old Post Aug-24-2002 16:13  Germany
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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

LOL...whats cracks me up is the fact that i have NEVER ONCE seen anyone on TA ever define progressive....noone seems to have the same definition....so jus cus everyones agreeing doesnt mean anything...because person A. may think prog is one thing and perosn B. may thinks its not....

so i think everyone needs to agree on what they feel is actually prog...or you jus need to listen to the music you love and stop worrying about who's laughing or who thinks your "n00b" or whatever...its MUSIC not a popularity contest...geeez


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Old Post Aug-24-2002 17:44  Bahamas
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randummboy
nu_age_hippii



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: minneapolis.mn.

tranceSeeker.. you are such a freaking hypocrit.. you're saying people dont liek prog because they aren't openminded, and then you turn around with the most closeminded statemets saying how eleet prog is; like there are no other genres out there.. sorry dude, but its people liek you that give us proggies a bad rap


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Old Post Aug-24-2002 20:38  United States
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infinity HiGH
groovin



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: west side T.O

Ok, first off, I assume that when you people say progressive, you're referring to both progressive trance and progressive house because there's NO SUCH GENRE AS PROGRESSIVE!! It's progressive house...and progressive trance. Some songs are completely prog house...some are a little bit of both, some are prog trance. The two genre's are similar, but prog trance has more synth work than prog house does. Thats how I define them.

Secondly, Tranceseeker is right...anyone who listens to the progressive genres knows that it is deeper than trance ever will be. The reason why we say that all you who just listen to trance don't understand is because we were once like that. Stop saying we're egotistical...got our heads up our asses, etc etc etc...all of us prog heads started on trance...and all of us hated prog. I know I did. I downloaded Sasha's Alexandria set last year and deleted it 10 minutes into the set. I got Digweeds Delta Heavy from Miami...deleted that too. But then I just sorta fell into it...I started to listen to it in a different way. I didn't start a CD or a song expecting the typical "umc umc umc umc" trance beat that has become regular in all trance tunes nowadays (and yes, that was a diss to trance because so far, 2002 trance is complete bullshit, cept for a select few). You don't listen to either progressive genre's expecting a "climax" 2 minutes into the song. Progressive isn't about that...its about rhythm...its about the riding bassline thats overlayed with different electronic sounds, and in some cases vocals...I guess when you listen to Prog, you gotta start from the bottom...meaning with the low frequency sounds, and work your way up like that. With trance, you listen to the most obvious sounds first, the synths, and then work your mind into the song and pickup all the little sounds that aren't so apparent...with prog...do the opposite. Start with the not so apparent.

*turns Nubreed 006 back up*

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burns
Jeep Sex



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: uK

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
you jus need to listen to the music you love and stop worrying about who's laughing or who thinks your "n00b" or whatever...its MUSIC not a popularity contest...geeez




Thats the bottom line in this thread

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infinity HiGH
groovin



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: west side T.O

quote:
Originally posted by burns




Thats the bottom line in this thread



exactly...people have different tastes. But some also need to be open-minded. I don't like break beats too much (unless it's by Hybrid) but I'm fairly open to them. If you don't like progressive, then don't just say "its boring"...cause its not, and we'll just come back at you and say "you don't understand it". Cause thats most likely the case, unless you've really tried to be open to it, but it does absolutely nothing to you, just like techno does nothing to me. No offense to the techno addicts...but its just not my type of music

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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk

quote:
Originally posted by randummboy
tranceSeeker.. you are such a freaking hypocrit.. you're saying people dont liek prog because they aren't openminded, and then you turn around with the most closeminded statemets saying how eleet prog is; like there are no other genres out there.. sorry dude, but its people liek you that give us proggies a bad rap



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Old Post Aug-24-2002 21:43  Belgium
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randummboy
nu_age_hippii



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: minneapolis.mn.

mabey next tiem you try to be funny, you should check to see that the link ins't broken first


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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk

quote:
Originally posted by randummboy
mabey next tiem you try to be funny, you should check to see that the link ins't broken first


huh


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Old Post Aug-24-2002 22:03  Belgium
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zarathustra
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Calgary

quote:
Originally posted by -=Freezel=-
Well, I'm not a big Progressive fan, I'm not listening to it often.

I can't create a clear opinion about the Progressive-scene because I don't know much about it.

But what I want to say is, when I hear some Progressive, it's good quality! Especially Seaman, Sasha, Chris Fortier and John Digweed.


I agree wholeheartedly. Whenever I used to hear "prog", it's always been top notch stuff. So much so, that it is starting to grow on me.

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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada

Well, I wouldn't say progressive trance or house is the result of an evolution in taste. I'd simply say it takes a while to discover everything there is to offer in the realm of electronic music. I like progressive stuff myself but that doesn't mean it's all I listen to. I consider myself lucky compared to others who don't like it only because their musical choices are a little bit more limited than mine are at present. I listen to progressive as well as uplifting trance and everything in between, plus various varieties of house and a bit of techno and ambient on the side. I can enjoy a Satoshi Tomiie cut one minute and an Airscape remix the next. If you can't, no big deal. I'll listen to what I like.

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